Re: Xavzoo, born thiab sawv daws Hmoob puas tau muaj ib lub koomhaum THINK TANK LI? yog tsis tau muaj no nej puas kam ua ib lub rau PEB HMOOB tau siv?

Hmong-Lao,

ZOO SIAB UAS KOJ TSEEM MUAB LUB SIJ HAWM LOS NROG KUV SIB PAUB NCAU
LUS NO THIAB. KUV YUAV SAU KUV LI QHOV KUV POM KUV XAV SEB NWS HO PUAS
TXAWV KOJ KEV XAV.

Kuv ho xav hais tias qhov thib 1 uas peb tsis nrog luag muaj teb muaj
chaw vim peb Hmoob feem coob lub siab me me, nqaim nqaim, ti ti no
ntag. Peb tsis kam qhib peb lub siab kom loj los txais tos txhua pab
txhua pawg, peb tsis kam qhib lub siab kom davfo txais tos tus uas nws
muaj thought/idea difference, political difference, ethnic difference,
religious difference, caltural difference, clan difference & etc....
HMONG-LAO, QHOV KOJ XAV KOJ POM CES YOG LI KOJ COV LUS NO LAWM. QHOV
ZAB XAV, PEB TSIS MUAJ TEB MUAJ CHAWS VIM YOG PEB SIAB LOJ, SIAB DAWB,
SIAB ZOO HWV, PEB TXAIS TXUA TUS LOS NROG PEB, LOS NYOB LOS PW PEB VAJ
PEB TSEV, NOJ PEB, UA PEB PAB PEB PAWG TSIS HAIS TUS NEEG NPLOG LOS
NEEG SUAV LOS YOG FABKIS LI NTAG CES PEB THIAJ LI RAUG LUAG DAG, TUS
PHEM TUS ZOO THIAJ LI TSIS PAUB CES TXOG QHOV KAWG TUS PHEM TIAJ LI
PAUB YUS QHOV WEAKNESS CES PEB THIAJ LI YOG TUS SWB TAG LI XWB. PEB
YUAV TSUM PAUB TUS NEEG PHEM TUS NEEG UAS MUAJ LUB SIAB NTXEEV NTAIS
NTUJ LI KOJ NTAG UAS XAV KOM COB FAB TUAG TU NOOB MAS PEB HMOOB THIAJ
LI ZOO TAUS NAWB.

Koj sim lam xav seb mas, koj xav kom tsim muaj ib lub Thank Tank uas
yog Hmoob tug. Tabsis koj ho tsis kam lees txais tus ua nws twb yog
Hmoob tabsis muaj txoj kev xav txawv koj. KOJ YUAV TSUM TO TAUB LOS
LUS TIAS (CONFLICT OF INTEREST), YOG COV NEEG KOJ TEEV NPE NO LAWV TWB
MUAJ QHOV INTEREST UAS MUS KOOM TES NROG NPLOG LAWM NWS HO MUAJ
BENEFIT AB TSI RAU HMOOB, YOG LAWV HO KOOM TES NROG HMOOB, NPLOG PUAS
YUAV NTSEEG LAWV?

For example, Pany Yathoatou,
DYD, Dr. Pao, GVP, Dr. ST, Dr. SY, Dr. MS, Sen. MM, Rep. CT, me
(Hmong-
Lao), & etc...xwb
Koj twb muab cov no xam ua yeebncuab tag lawm, koj
tseem tshuav leej twg nrog koj? YOG RAU HMOOB INTEREST CES LEEJ TWG
MUS KOOM TES NROG HMOOB TUS YEEB NCUAB CES NWS LOS YEEJ YOG HMOOB TUS
YEEB NCUAB IB YAM, VIM NWS TWG YOG TUS XUB KHIAV NTAWM HMOOB MUS NROG
HMOOB TUS YEEB NCUAB TUA HMOOB UA NTEJ LAWM, NWS YEEJ TSIS YOG HMOOB
TUS YEEB NCUAB THAUM PIB, TAB SIS THAUM NWS TXIAV TXIM SIAB MUS NROG
LWM HAIV LAWM CES THAUM NTAWV NWS YOG TUS ROV THAUJ XUB HMOOB XWB.

Koj muab 500,000 tus Hmoob nyob Nplog
teb ua koj tus yeeb ncuab, koj yuav mus kav 500 tus Hmoob nyob
havzoov.
Li no los, qhov koj hlub Hmoob? KOM KOJ TO TAUB TIAS HMOOB NPLOG TEB
FEEM COOB LAWV YEEJ NTXUB NPLOG TSHAJ TUS DAB, LAWV YEEJ XAV TOS
NTSOOV SEB HNUB TWG HMOOB THIAJ LI YUAV DIM NTAWM NPLOG MUS UA HMOOB
IB LUB TEB CHAWS XWB. COV NYIAM NPLOG CES TSIS MUAJ IB TUG LI LOS YOG,
LAWV NROG NPLOG UA HAUJ LWM VIM YOG KEV NRHIAV NOJ NRHIAV HAUS CAWM
TXOJ SIA XWB. QHIA RAU KOJ PAUB TIAS HMOOB TSIS YOG COV NYOB HAV ZOOV
ES THIAJ LI NTXUB NPLOG XWB, HMOOB NYOB THOOB QAB NTUJ NO YEEJ NTXUB
NPLOG TSUAS YOG KOJ THIAB OB PEB NYUAG TUS UAS NPLOG TWB TSIS TXAIS
LEES UA NEEG NPLOG ES THIAJ LI NYIAM NPLOG XWB VIM NEJ LOS NROG HMOOB
NYOB LOLOS HMOOB YEEJ TSIS XAV YUAV LAWM CES THIAJ LI UA TXOJ MUS PUAB
NPLOG SEB NPLOG PUAS YUAV XWB, TAWM MUS PUAB NPLOG LOS NPLOG YEEJ TSIS
TAU LEES NEJKIAG LI, IB YAM II YONG NIAJ HNUB TUAJ CEM NEJ XWB.

Qhov 2 yog peb tsav Hmoob no racist dhau heev lawm. Tabtxawm peb cov
nyuag Hmoob ib yam nkaus xwb los peb twb tseem ciav tseem cais tias
koj niam yog Hmoob Dawb, kuv niam yog Hmoob Dub etc.... Tseem ciav
cais tias kuv niam yog xeem Yaj, koj niam yog xeem Lis etc.... Hos yog
tseem yog lwm haiv lawm thiab mas peb hajyam ciav cais loj. Yog coj
tau lub sib nqaim nqaim ti ti thiab ciav ciav cais npaum li no es yuav
ua li cas muaj tau teb chaws? COV NEEG TSIS POM DEB LI KOJ CES YEEJ
POM NQAIM-M LI KOJ XWB, PEB HMOOB THIAB ZAB TSIS POM LI KOJ , ZAB POM
HAIS TIAS HMOOB YOG IB CO NEEG ZOO TSHAJ HAUV QAB NTUJ NO LAWM, PEB
TSIS TAU CIAV CAIS LEEJ TWG HAIS TXOG NTAWM LUB TEB CHAWS HMOOB LI
NTAG. PEB YEEJ YUAV KHO KOM XWS TEB CHAWS LI KEV CAI. TEJ ZAUM KO LUB
SIAB NQAIM-M ES KOJ THIAJ LI XAV LI XWB, HMONG NATIONAL INTEREST TSIS
YOG LI KOJ NIAJ HNUB POM NO.

Qhov 3 tuaj, peb yog ib haiv neeg uas cibnyeej dhau heev; tsis txawj
zam txim thiab tsis paub novqab yam dhau los. Yog haiv neeg twg tau ua
yeebncuab nrog Hmoob lawm mas haiv neeg ntawv yeej yog Hmoob tus
yeebncuab mus 5,000 xyoo los yeej tseem yog yeebncuab. Yog ib ncig
ntawm yus puav leej yog yus cov yeeb ncuab no yus yuav ua tau ib haiv
neeg li cas? Haiv twg los yog yus yeeb ncuab tibsi no leej twg thiaj
yuav pab tau yus? TEJ KOJ HAIS NO TSIS MUAJ TSEEB IB QHO HLO LI, TEJ
ZAUM YOG KOJ VWM LAWM ES KOJ THIAJ LI XAV LI XWB. HMONG QHOV NATIONAL
INTEREST NWS TSIS YOG LI KOJ XAV, TEJ KO YOG NTAWM KOJ TUS KHEEJ XAV
XWB.

Haiv twg los yog yus yeebncuab no yus yuav nrog lub
tebchaws twg ua lag luam? HMOOB TSIS TAU UA YEEB NCUAB RAU LEEJ TWG,
NWS TSUAS YOG LWM HAIV UA YEEB NCUAB RAU HMOOB XWB, THAUM LAWV TXAIS
TOS TIAS HMOOB YOG IB HAIV NEEG LAWM CES PEB YEEJ ZOO SIAB UA PHOOJ
YWG NROG RAU COV UAS LAWV RECOGNIZE PEB. YOG HAIV NEEG TWG TSIS
RECOGNIZE PEB CES PEB LOS YEEJ TSIS RECOGNIZE LAWV IB YAM, NWS TSIS
MUAJ BENEFIT RECOGNIZE LAWV YOG LAWV TWB TSIS PAUB YUS LAWM.

Qhov 4 tuaj, peb yog ib hiav neeg tsis paub ntsuas yus lub zog thiab
tsis paub zam qws hlo li. Yus xuas rauj xuas riam xwb los tseem mus
theev nrog luag tus uas xuas hmuv xuas ntaj. Sib ntaus sib tua thaum
twg, xyoo tswg, pluav tsovrog twg los txog qhov kawg ces yus twb yuav
luag tsis tshuav noob los yus tseem ua qujqees. TEJ KOJ HAIS NO NWS
TSIS MUAJ TSEEB HLO LI, PEB HMOOB TSIS TAU SWB IB NPLUAV ROG RAU LEEJ
TWG UA YOG PEB LAM TAU LAM UA LI.

Qhov 5 mas mam yog qhov uas koj hais txog, tias Hmoob muaj cov neeg
taug nyeg. Tabsis cov neeg taugnyeg no yeej muaj nyob rau txhua txhua
haiv neeg. Yuav tsum yog yus ntse txaus es ntes kom tau cov neeg
taugnyeg no xwb nawb. Cov neeg no, could be me (Hmong-Lao), could be
you (Zab-Dag), could be any body else! Tejlaus niaj txhis piv txoj lug
hais tias "TUB SAB NCAUJ NCAB"; cov uas cem cem Hmob tus yeeb ncuab
thiab liam tus ub tus no hais tias yog neeg taugnyeg ces tus ntawd
ntag yog neeg taugnyeg.

KOJ COV LUS NO NWS KUJ MUAJ TSEEB TAB SIS TUS TUB SAB NTAWV YOG KOJ
KOM NWS MUS TUA NWS TUS NOM RAU KOJ NWS YEEJ TSIS MUS KIAG LI NTAG.

AMEN

On Apr 8, 9:52 am, Hmong-Lao <Hmlao...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 7, 4:21 pm, Zab <zab...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:









Hmong-lao,

Qhia rau koj paub kom tseeb qhov peb Hmoob tsis vam meej, tsis muaj
teb muaj chaw, ua zaj twg los tsis tau ces txawm yog muaj cov neeg zoo
li koj thiab tej pag neeg uas caum noj caum hais raws opportunity xwb
ntag, nws tsis yog tim clan, los yog religion li nawb. Nws saib qhov
twg tau noj ces dia rau qhov ntawv xwb, zoo ib yam li tus dev uas luag
rog ib pas rau es tawm plaws, luag pov kiag pob ntxa rau ces rov los
sib txeeb noj sib tog cuag tsi xwb. Cov neeg zoo li no yuav ua cas
haum pab pawg twg no na. NYob nrog neej los neej yeej tsis yuav, nyob
nrog dab los dab yeej tsis yuav li na, vim nws yog neeg thawj thiab
xwb na nyob tsis muaj chaw li. Qhov kawg ces hais li no xwb, Are you
with us or agains us HMong no xwb. If u wanted to stick with laos that
is fine, if u wanted to stick the usa that is fine, if u wanted to be
HMong, ur more than welcome.

amen

On Apr 7, 9:47 am, Hmong-Lao <Hmlao...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

PY Zab,
Kuv agree li koj hais, Hmoob yeej tsis tau qhau lub COHR kom ntog li,
tsuas yog nej ob peb tug hauv SCH no qhau xwb (rov mus nyeem nej cov
lus accusations). Txawm li cas los nej twb tsis muaj pov thawj los
txheem ces txawm yuav sib zog qhau npaum twg los lawv yeej sawv ntseg
ntsees li qub xwb os nawb. Yog nej hlub Hmoob tiag, thov xyaum hais
lus kom muaj laijthawj, hais kom muaj povthawj timkhawv, hais kom
leejtwg los yauv taus, paub npog nej tej lus zais kom tob es peb thiaj
li tshuav kev cia siab rau nej lub koom haum thiab lau!

Note: I have nothing to do with COHR, Hmong Congress or Congress Hmong
org. I'm neutral.

HL

On Apr 6, 4:22 pm, Zab <zab...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hmong-lao,

Peb Hmoob tsis tau qhau leej twg los pab twg li nawb, nws tsuas yog
muaj tej tug los tej pab thiaj li qhau Hmoob xwb xws li lawv tso Hmoob
tseg es mus nrog plis nrog ma ua neej lawm xwb nawb. Tej tug neeg nws
txawm yog Hmoob yug los nws tus ntsuj tus plig yog nplog, yog nyab laj
los thawj xwb yog li nws thiaj li tsis muaj siab HMoob nawb. Yog leej
twg mus koom mab koom suav lawm ces tus ntawv yog tus cais Hmoob xwb,
tsis yog hmoob cais nws nawb.

Cov los tsim lub HOHR no ces zoo ib yam li tus dev uas tus tswv (plog
liab) tib qws rau, yuav muab txhom pub rau nyab laj tua noj ces khiav
kiag rau nraum zoov (USA, AUSTRALIA, FRANCE) lawm ntag, thaum tus tswv
(plog liab) muab pab ntxha ntses lwj pleev tsuaj ntxuav nyiaj pov
kiag  rau hauv qab rooj ces rov nkag loo los sib txeeb noj sib tog
cuag tsi nyias khav nyias kaus ntse nyias muaj zog xwb ntag, thaum noj
tag ces pab txha daig caj dab los muaj, tus kem plab los muaj, tus haw
quav los muaj tus tuag los muaj li. Yog ib tug dev tsis muaj siab muaj
ntsws ua tsis taus txiv li no ces yeej kawg noj quav xwb, yeej ua tsis
taus txiv tsov ntxuav li ntag nawb. Ua dev caum nqaij los yeej caum
tsis tau vim nws lub siab yeej tsis tawv txaus li, caum dais los raug
dais tom, caum npua teb los raug npua teb tom, ces txog thaum kawg
raug tus tswv rov muab pub rau nyab laj coj mus tua noj dua xwb ntag.

Koj los lus flip flop los yog elastic los yog flexible mas nws tsis
tau yog lub sij hawm peb yuav tsiv nawb, yog peb thiab nplog yeej muaj
peace lawm ces ua li koj hais be flexible los tau nawb, yog peb zoo ib
yam li america, ib lub teb chaws lawm es lub party lawm xwb ces kev
sib kho sib tham ces yog li koj hais nawb tab sis peb thiab nplog
tseem technicaly at war ces peb yuav be flexible tsis tau tau nawb.
Yog koj ho xav tias peb tsis muaj xuaj li lawm es nplog kom peb ua li
cas los ua lo li xwb ces nws ho tsis yog flexible lawm thiab ov, nws
yog force thiab slave lawm xwb nawb.

Teev Lis,

Zoo siab koj rov tuaj koom peb. Tseg tau ntev lawm tsis hnov koj xav
ntse koj twb mus nrog nplog nyob lawm no koj ho tswm ntawm ko thiab,
ua li koj puas yog ib tug ntawm cov tau lav gold medal ntawm nplog
liab thiab tau daim citizen li dr yang dao thiab dr pao lawv? Thaum i
koj rau siab fight rau nplog qhov NTR kawg li, thov koj update me me
rau peb tau paub seb peb hmoob txoj kev ntawm NTR ho mus li cas lawm
thiab soj?

Koj cov lus hais txog qhov THINK TANK yeej yog li koj hais thiab tab
sis txawm li cas los nej cov ua tij kawm ntawv siab yuav tau txhob
pheej nqa nej tej tswv yim mus hlwb lwm haiv neeg,  luag yeej tsis
hlub nej los peb hmoob li nawb. zoo ib yam li yong niaj hnub thuam peb
no ntag nawb. Koj yuav fight rau nplog liab npaum twg los txiaj ntsim
yeej tsis muaj kiag li, thaum kawg ces koj yeej yog npaum miab tib yam
li peb thiab xwb.

amen

PY Born2,
Kuv tsis nyob rau huav nej group discussion ntawd vim kuv tsuas yog me
nyuam poj ntxoog ceb ceb muag xwb. Yog koj tseem muaj qhov source qhia
hais tias lawv yeej tau hais li ntawv tseeb tiag no muab forward rau
kuv los tau, hos muab tso tawm rau hauv SCH no los tau. Hos yog ho
muab delete lawm los tsis ua li cas. Tabsis txawm koj tsis muaj qhov
information ntawd lawm los kuv yeej twv tau cov ntsiab lus lawv tham
lawm. Lawv tsuas yog hais txog cog kev phoojywg nrog LPDR xwb, tsis
yog tuaj LPDR tog od. Note: Cog kev phoojywg nrog tus qub yeebncuab
thiab tuaj tus qub yeebncub tog yog ob qho uas sib txawv deb heev od!

PY Zab,
Zoo siab uas koj hloov los tham li ib tug txiv neej yawg lawm. Yog li
ntawd, cia kuv mam cav pem me me nrog koj.

Kuv ho xav hais tias qhov thib 1 uas peb tsis nrog luag muaj teb muaj
chaw vim peb Hmoob feem coob lub siab me me, nqaim nqaim, ti ti no
ntag. Peb tsis kam qhib peb lub siab kom loj los txais tos txhua pab
txhua pawg, peb tsis kam qhib lub siab kom davfo txais tos tus uas nws
muaj thought/idea difference, political difference, ethnic difference,
religious difference, caltural difference,  clan difference & etc....

Koj sim lam xav seb mas, koj xav kom tsim muaj ib lub Thank Tank uas
yog Hmoob tug. Tabsis koj ho tsis kam lees txais tus ua nws twb yog
Hmoob tabsis muaj txoj kev xav txawv koj. For example, Pany Yathoatou,
DYD, Dr. Pao, GVP, Dr. ST, Dr. SY, Dr. MS, Sen. MM, Rep. CT, me (Hmong-
Lao), & etc... Koj twb muab cov no xam ua yeebncuab tag lawm, koj
tseem tshuav leej twg nrog koj? Koj muab 500,000 tus Hmoob nyob Nplog
teb ua koj tus yeeb ncuab, koj yuav mus kav 500 tus Hmoob nyob havzoov
xwb. Li no los, qhov koj hlub Hmoob?

Qhov 2 yog peb tsav Hmoob no racist dhau heev lawm. Tabtxawm peb cov
nyuag Hmoob ib yam nkaus xwb los peb twb tseem ciav tseem cais tias
koj niam yog Hmoob Dawb, kuv niam yog Hmoob Dub etc.... Tseem ciav
cais tias kuv niam yog xeem Yaj, koj niam yog xeem Lis etc.... Hos yog
tseem yog lwm haiv lawm thiab mas peb hajyam ciav cais loj. Yog coj
tau lub sib nqaim nqaim ti ti thiab ciav ciav cais npaum li no es yuav
ua li cas muaj tau teb chaws? Vim txhua txhua lub tebchaws yeej tsis
yog muaj Hmoob tib tsob nyob xwb nad!

Qhov 3 tuaj, peb yog ib haiv neeg uas cibnyeej dhau heev; tsis txawj
zam txim thiab tsis paub novqab yam dhau los. Yog haiv neeg twg tau ua
yeebncuab nrog Hmoob lawm mas haiv neeg ntawv yeej yog Hmoob tus
yeebncuab mus 5,000 xyoo los yeej tseem yog yeebncuab. Yog ib ncig
ntawm yus puav leej yog yus cov yeeb ncuab no yus yuav ua tau ib haiv
neeg li cas? Haiv twg los yog yus yeeb ncuab tibsi no leej twg thiaj
yuav pab tau yus? Haiv twg los yog yus yeebncuab no yus yuav nrog lub
tebchaws twg ua lag luam? Suvav, Nyab Laj, Nplog, Thaib, Miskas puav
leej yog Hmoob cov Yeebncuab lawm, leejtwg thiaj li yuav yog Hmoob tus
phoojywg? Phabmab los? Kaspuscias os? nkawv twb muab tsis mus nkawv
tus kheej lawm na!

Qhov 4 tuaj, peb yog ib hiav neeg tsis paub ntsuas yus lub zog thiab
tsis paub zam qws hlo li. Yus xuas rauj xuas riam xwb los tseem mus
theev nrog luag tus uas xuas hmuv xuas ntaj. Sib ntaus sib tua thaum
twg, xyoo tswg, pluav tsovrog twg los txog qhov kawg ces yus twb yuav
luag tsis tshuav noob los yus tseem ua qujqees.

Qhov 5 mas mam yog qhov uas koj hais txog, tias Hmoob muaj cov neeg
taug nyeg. Tabsis cov neeg taugnyeg no yeej muaj nyob rau txhua txhua
haiv neeg. Yuav tsum yog yus ntse txaus es ntes kom tau cov neeg
taugnyeg no xwb nawb. Cov neeg no, could be me (Hmong-Lao), could be
you (Zab-Dag), could be any body else! Tejlaus niaj txhis piv txoj lug
hais tias "TUB SAB NCAUJ NCAB"; cov uas cem cem Hmob tus yeeb ncuab
thiab liam tus ub tus no hais tias yog neeg taugnyeg ces tus ntawd
ntag yog neeg taugnyeg.

Tham ntau dhau lawm tsam koj laj laj nyeem ces cia yuav li no tso,

HL

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