Re: Stop Promoting Stupidy...Stop Supporting Hmong Movies

nom,

koj yeej ib txwm nyeem ntawv english li niag me nyuam noj nyiaj SSI
xwb ned, koj thiaj hais tias kuv swb. cas vaajtswv qhib tsis tau koj
lub qhov muag li? tsis yog tsis teev hawm pog yawg thiaj li ua koj dig
muag thiab ruam lawm lod?

kuv cov lus noog me me xwb vimhlub txwb teb tsis tau kiag ned? nws mus
hais pug pev pug nrav. nws thiab koj ces zoo tib yam--tsis paub tom
ntev tom qab, ntsia kiag tib nyuag pliag xwb tseem siv dhia tawg qeej
hais tias 'yeej/swb' lawm?

cov rhuav hmoob #1 ces txwb yog koj tus txiv dev ntawm koj ned. koj
niaj hnub tuaj nrhuav hmoob kab li kev cai dab qhaus. dr tom + nom
phaj mas tseem ua raws li qhov muaj tseeb hauv tej yim tsev neeg hmoob
lub neej ov. koj mas, hais niag dag tsawv ntxub hmoob txhaus leej
txhaus tus es tsis nkag nej pab qhab nab mormons. vim cov zoo li koj
tus dig muag ntawm koj peb hmoob thiaj li ruag kev puas loj tshaj
plaws. koj sim ntsia koj lub siab dub siab phem seb; koj tseem xav kom
hmoob ploj mus sai sai thiab. tos koj tau lub npe dev los koj yeej ua
li niag tsiaj tsis paub quav dab tsi ned.

kav tsij qhuas vimhlub thaj tiag. tsis ntev, yog nws txoj kev xav
'yeej' tiag li koj qhuas, ntshai koj phau bible mormon yuav raug hlawv
sai li sai xwb pod? yeeb vim nej cov mormons haj yam muaj kev ua lwj
ua liam li nom phaj + dr tom es yuav niam yau sav. nej tseem muaj tej
yam 'abnormal' violence li thaum nej tua cov tib neeg dawb hu tim
Mountain Meadows Massacre thaum 1857 sav.

cas tuag tsis tuag ne yuav? ntsia seb vimhlub puas yuav raug koj dag
tau mus txiag tom church ov.

tsis tas li, niam 3 mas yog tsawg kawg siv $100,000 naj, ntsej muag
dev. get your facts straight, idiot.

kav tsij rov qab los txhawb nqa hmoob kab li kev cai seb koj lub hlwb
rwj puas yuav rov qab tawg paj dua ua ntej koj tuag mus rau dab teb os
mog.

hiv hiv os.

On Nov 10, 4:01 am, "lis...@xxxxxxxxx" <lis...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 9, 10:03 pm, zhen <shiyi.l...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



vimhlub,

what is 'normal' violence? pray tell.

like i said in my other response, many biographical hmong movies have
these elements of 'abnormal' violence, vulgarity, and human
degradation. so, according to your reasoning, they 'promote' BAD
things and should be boycotted too?

these biographical hmong movies with 'abnormal' elements may not
resonant with your perfect reality, but 'many' (at least enough in
numbers to get under your skin to petition informally for a boycott)
do relate to the 'abnormalities' in one form or another.

again, you can't compare something you have not seen in 2007 with what
you probably saw in 1990. that's like me saying, spiderman 10 is not
even comparable to spiderman 1. that's right, that's how you sound
like: like you don't know what you're talking about.

On Nov 9, 3:18 pm, vimh...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

Born2beHmong,

Whether it's Nom Phaj beating up Maiv Puv or vice versa, it is neither
"creative" nor is it a documentary, basis of the art. They are intent
on portraying abnormal violence, vulgarity, and human degradation --
all due to the producers' lack of imagination for content. Many
thinks they portray "reality" in Hmong society. Do they? You and I
are both Hmong. Are those OUR reality? Should they be?

Others will say, "it's just a movie, why are we so worked up about
it"? Well, it may be just a movie, but it penetrates our lives and
the lives of our children AND we are paying for it, be it monetarily
or socially.

Talk about pioneers. Hmong have been "producing movies" since 1990.
It's been nearly 20 years. The pioneering age should have been over
long time ago. In fact, the Hmong "movies" nowadays aren't even
comparable to those in the 90's. This is because the "pioneers"
nowadays do not care about perfecting the art. They only practice hit
and run tactics for quick cash so they could take another vacation to
Thailand or Laos. They actually contributed to the demise of many
talented movie makers by flooding the market with cheap products. I
tell you, I wouldn't want to go to the dimension the "pioneers" want
to take the Hmong people.- Hide quoted text -

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Kuv saib zoo li Sis. Zhen swb lawm sub. Kuv thov qhuas tus Sis.
Vimhlub koj ntse thiab yeej hais tau zoo thiab yog kawg lawm. Tos
Sis Zhen hais li rau koj los nws twb hais tias nws txiv muaj 3 los 4
tug niam diam mas tseem mus yuav qujqees tuaj thiab no ne. Ntshe tsam
no 6 los 7 tus lawm pob. Yuav ib tug twg poob lis ntawm $50,000
txhiab no ces nyaj Sis. get used to lawm os.

Sis. Vimhlub, koj kavliam lawv ua lawv os twb yog vim peb Hmoob cov
niag religion ces los xaus li no lawm xwb os tsis muaj huajvam qhovtwg
ntxiv lawm. Cov uas tseeg tsaug zog thiaj tseem ntshaw peb cov
religion lawm xwb hos cov dua muag thiab yuav mus ua neej vammeej ces
twb tso tseg tas lawm.

Tsis muaj leejtwg rhuav Hmoob li cia Hmoob rhuav Hmoob xwb thiab ploj
mus sai. Qhov no twb yog Tswv Ntuj kom ua li no es peb cov menyuam
thiaj tsis kawm lawm es thiaj vammeej sai. Koj sim ntsia seb tsis
ntev no ces nej yuav pom nplog ua neeb hle ris los mas. Thaum no ces
Hmoob pom mas tus twg los tsuas hais nqus nrim yuav mus ntau nplog
lawm xwb. Thaum no mas yog insult thiab human rights violation rau
Hmoob lawm xwb nawb cia peb mam ntsia. Hos hais txog qhov abuse mas
muaj tseeb nawb txhua lolus koj hais yeej tsis povtseg li ov. Peb
Hmoob tseem tsis pom tej nom li es peb thiaj tseem muaj abusive
situations tas li xwb los mas. Cov txivneej Hmoob nyiam ntaus pojniam
tseem muaj coob kawg li raws kuv paub nas.

Yog koj dhua Hmoob tej kevcai lawm ces los nrog peb mus church xwb los
mas es kavliam lawv ua lawv os. Haivneeg twg teev dab loj tshaj plaws
ces haivneeg ntawd txomnyem tshaj plaws xwb. Ua tsaug rau koj qhov
topic os.

Nom


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