Re: observation of the mind

"drpao-oz" <drpao-oz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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A definite YES...
Yes... You can experience lots of things by simply using your trained
imagination. But firstly, you need to learn a few tricks to get pass
the filtering system of your mind from the conscious mind to the
subconcious mind. Once you master these mind tricks, you can then move
in and out of your subconscious and you are on the way to be able to
tap into the quantum field - the energy field around you , to create
what most people believe to be miracle.

Please, Dr. Pao, contain yourself here! Can't do no such
thing! "[M]ove in and out of your subconscious and you
are on your way to be able to tap into the quantum field"?

Surely, you are joking, Dr. Pao! lol

At least QUANTUM FIELD as I understand what SCIENTISTS
take it to be.

Incidently, reading QUANTUM PHILOSOPHY ("Understanding
and Interpreting Contemporary Science", by Roland
Omnes of the University of Paris XI), may be a book
for those who want to understand what the term QUANTUM
really means (which is very different from how
astrologers and other mediums who keep talking about
those energies [or "engery fields"] "around you," etc.)

The Quantum Field issue is an very interseting field that remain
puzzling for even Einstein himself (what he called it the Eistein
paradox) for many years. Today, it is better understood but what remain
confusing is, "what does constitute consciousness?" What is a thought?
Why a event in real life and an imagination has the same impact on the
mind? Why a shaman ceremy has similar effect, if not more, than a
doctor or a Psychiatrist treatment?

Shamanism and astrology and these "new age gurus" are snake
oil doctors, merely employing modern epistemological terms
they borrow from the SCIENTIFIC community, but terms (e.g.,
"quantum," "energies," "fields," "space-time," etc.) which
they have little or NO GRASP of.

You don't hear "noises" from working scientists SIMPLY
because they don't want to waste time "debating" these
shamans, gurus, etc. et al. It is NOT that the latter
know what the hell they are saying; most are outright
quacks and others (like Shamans) are in self-induced
trances, so NEITHER are aware enough about any "reality"
to know what they are saying,,,,,,,,,,,,,

"A field," to the scientists, FOR EXAMPLE, has a
certain DEFINED or at least definable dimension to it.
By that I meant it can be neatly/strictly symbolized
via numbers and symbols; it is not something "floating
out there" awaiting those [ANY ONE] who have meditate
the "correct" way or meditate long or hard!

Take the ELECTRIC FIELD, the MAGNETIC FIELD, or better
yet, take MAXWELL'S ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD, of which
EVERYTHING EXHIBITS, from a flea, to a piece of cloth,
to a dust, to the tears running down your girlfriend's
cheeks,,,,,

Now, let me back-up one moment and say this:

in ORDER for ANY ONE to understand what I just said,
FOR EXAMPLE, they will have to know/understand some
BASIC science like CHEMISTRY: that EVERYTHING (i.e.,
each of the things I quickly mentioned above) IS
MADE OF MOSTLY the known elements we've either found
or made so far, and perhaps a few other "exotic"
elements awaiting discovery; and that every element
EXHIBITS, at their most fundamental state (that we've
been able to understand/see) what James Maxwell had
nicely encapsulated in his ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD
mathematical formulations,,,

If ONE does not have a clear/rudimentary grasp of
the SIMPLER mathematical/physics "fields" like the
"electric field," "magnetic field," etc. --- and
if so then they won't understand the more subtle
and/or complex ones like the ELETROMAGNETIC
FIELD --- then it is a given that they do not have
any clear/real understanding, whatsoever, of the
incredibly subtle/complex fields like "quantuam
field", "Higgsfield," "Yang-Mill" phenomena, etc.

If you think taking drugs, or going into "deep
meditation," or going into self- or drug-induced
trance, or praying, or following astrological
charts, etc. would ALSO get you to understand
deep natural phenomena --- from the infinistely
brief (like the coming into and going out of
existence of many subatomic particles at the
STANDARD MODEL theoritical level in physics) --- you
are deluding yourself,,,,

Delusion, alas, is a necessary tool sometimes, I
have to admit,,,, lol

'coz, it is the MIND!

Pao




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