Re: HMong Kids Lack Learning Help!

I once sat in a session with a family counselor from the Department of
Human Service who lectured about parenting to a group of elderly Hmong
ladies. She (The Counselor) began her session by a very impressive
introduction. "I am a family counselor. I really love working with
people but most of all, I love working with children. Every child is
very special in his/her own way and they are just so adorable. I'm so
grateful that God gave me the ability to work with kids. I would never
have done any different. I spent years in college and university
trying to find better ways for children. I hold a Doctoral Degree in
child psychology, but what I learned most wa by working with many
wonderful mothers like you."

Once it was said and done, she began to show how a child should be
raised and what each finding in her research or statistics meant. One
Hmong lady raised her hand and asked, "Dr. Brown, how many children do
you have?"

"I do not have any children. My husband and I are both Doctors. We've
spent a lot of time with our studies and work. We both feel it is to
our best interest to wait until we're more settled in. Right now, we
have Penny, our dog." Replied the Doctor.

The uneducated Hmong ladies began to mumble at each other and I
couldn't help but asked what they were talking indistinctly about. One
replied, "Tsov tom ntawd es yug ibniag dev xwb es yuav tuaj qhia peb
txog menyuam os."

The point is, learning is for the inexperience and true knowledge must
be acquired by practice not heard or read. And, do expect that people
will raise their eyebrows if what you say contradicts who you are.

I did take a course in statistics for those who must know, but only
because it was a required curriculum - not due to my lack of
coordination or connecting dotted lines or better yet correlation.

Our Hmong elders have a saying, "You hear it, you understand. You see
it, you know. You do it, you learned."

One of the main factors contributing to poor education is not KIDS
versus KID, pluaral versus singular or bi-lingual versus mono-lingual.
It is how kids and kid are structured, and sometimes a little help from
above. Many under-previleged children who were raised by poor formally
uneducated parents have proven to become some of the most effective
intellectuals, successful and well liked leaders. Look at Dr. Martin
Luther King, Former President William Jefferson Clinton, General Vang
Pao, Ghandi, Bhudda and Jesus, etc.

Look at you! Her Lao! A compulsive and natural writer. I recall you
saying you did not have a T.V. to watch at point, yet you've become the
one heck of a writer.

Her Lao wrote:
> "Tshua" <pujtoogmuamnkaujfa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1134353054.821876.216360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> > The probability of the correlation that having more kids contribute to
> > inadequate education is no more or no less than having one kid who is a
> > rotten spoiled brat. Take the rich and famous kids (well, some of
> > them) for instance. Without their parents' wealth, how likely is a
> > woman like Paris Hilton going to succeed except being a bimbo? How
> > likely is the King of rock-n-roll's daughter, Marie Presley, going to
> > succeed with her singing talent?
> >
>
> Dude, you REALLY, I mean, really, need to take at least ONE
> statistics/logic course.
>
> The OBSERVATION pertains to AVERAGE STATISTICS. It is
> NOT about 9 kids from a very poor family all going to college
> (mine fits this bill: there are 9 of us, with parents with next to
> no English: 3 UC graduates; 2 states; 1 BYU; the rest working
> and working towards a college education), ON THE ONE HAND,
> or ONE KID WHO IS A SPOILED BRAT, as you put it.
>
> Take a course in statistic and/or logic!
>
> Here, let me BREAK IT DOWN for you:
>
> the PROBABILITY,,,,, (I know you PROBABLY do not have a
> good grasp on even high school-level PROBIBILITY, but I'll make it
> really easy, okay?: I'll factor in the "spoil brat" notion, as well as
> the "good kid" notion, too, okay?, but distribute both notions
> FAIRLY, or evenly ACROSS all kids, all families, okay???),,,,,
>
> Now, let me start again,,,, the PROBIBILITY of 100 families each
> having 9 kids (like, say, Her Lao's), with ALL KIDS going to college
> (or just having good jobs in the office, without digging ditches or
> collecting unpleasantly smell things as a living), IS STATISTICALLY
> LOWER, MUCH LOWER (very significantly lower), than the
> probability of 100 families with only ONE CHILD per set of parents
> ALL going to college.
>
> "probability" is often, if not exclusively, understood simply as a
> fractional number between "0" and "1",,,, E.g., Her Lao's
> "chances" -- or probability) of buying $20 Powerball tickets
> tonight and winning the Powerball prize is so close to ZERO,
> it might as well be zero, for all practicality reasons; but it is,
> statistically not zero, because there is a chance, 1 in 60 million
> plus or so, that he could win it!!! But the "chances" or probility
> is VERY, VERY, VERY low,,,, do you understand it????
>
> NOW,,,
>
> the deep thoughts "spoil brat":
>
> the PROBILITY that, all other factors considered, all things being
> equal,,,, the child from a one-child family will be a "spoil brat" is
> VERY, VERY LOW, compared to the probability that AT LEAST
> ONE CHILD FROM A FAMILY WITH 9 KIDS WOULD BE "spoiled"
> and would cause a lot of problems and headaches to the parents
> and elders.
>
> What does that mean?, you ask: Well it means this:
>
> EACH CHILD, whether you're from a large or a small family -----
> has the same chance/probability of being a "spoiled kid," just
> like they may or may not have the same chances/probility of
> going to college.
>
> But, get this, I swear this is SOUND STATISTICS or at least
> probability: all factors considered, the ONE-CHILD families
> each has only 1 set of probility that he/she would be spoiled;
> but the 9-child families EACH having the probablity that
> 9 out of 9 kids COULD be problematic, slow to learning,
> not going to college, etc. EACH child, remember, has an
> equal chances of being "this" or "that",,,
>
> It is NOT as you illogically put: that "the one child could be
> a spoil brat" and "the man-child families could be ALL good,
> college bound",,, THIS IS A NONSENSICAL observation, do
> you see it?
>
> LOGIC, statistics [if possible], probability, etc. say this:
>
> EACH child has a certain set of "probabilitic chances" of
> being "this" or "that" or something in between. But if you have
> only ONE CHILD, it is limited to ONE SET of "those things",,,
> but if you have 5, 9, or 12 children, you have 5, 9, OR 12
> SETS of probabilistic chances of EACH child being "those
> things."
>
> If you have not taken a course on the matter, and it seems you
> have not, it is with a HIGH probabilitic chance that you'd NOT
> understand what I am saying,,,,, But I tried!
>
>
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