Re: SCH - Happy 9th Birthday!! Oct 31st 2005



Nyob zoo ib tsoom phooj ywg thaib zoo siab hnub tsim tsa SCH,
Kuv zoo siab heev uas tuaj paub nej sawv daws rau hauv SCH no. Ua tsaug
rau cov uas tau tsim tsa thiab txhawb lub chaw sib ntsib SCH no rau peb
sawv daws. Dhau li ntawd, ua tsaug rau Neeg Magazine, Vientianetimes
thiab SCL uas yog lub ncauj kev rau kuv tuaj tshwm rau hauv SCH no.
Kawg no thov ua tsaug tshwj xeeb rau Google uas muab lub chaw no rau
peb Hmoob tuaj sib ntsib yam tsis tsub nqi rau peb.

HL


drpao-oz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Please give your REFLECTION of SCH over the lat 9 years.
>
> Pao
> ----------------------
>
> Historically.....
>
> The story of SCH began in March 1994, when Alex Lor proposed fo the
> creation of SCH. The cyber community voted but at the conclusion of
> voting on 16 May 1994, there were 67 YES votes and 37 NO votes - hence
> the first attempt to create SCH faild because it does not met the
> requirement of Usenet (ie. For a group to pass, the YES votes must be
> at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
> votes).
>
> SCH was re-initiated again on 1 Aug 1996 by Kag Khetsavanh, a member of
> Laonet. At the end of a hard campaign, the hard work was paid off ...
> it was announced on 31 Oct 1996 that "the unmoderated group
> soc.culture.hmong was passed with 179:23 (and the lists
> of all the voters are avaialable thru the Newsgroup archive).
>
> SCH appeared on air by 5 November 1996.
>
> Here is the Charter of SCH:
>
> "SOC.CULTURE.HMONG CHARTER
>
> All issues related to Hmong may be discussed in this forum. It is
> expected that although this newsgroup will not be moderated, it will be
> a platform for a lively discussion about the culture, politics and
> social issues relating to Hmong at home and abroad. We welcome all
> netters to learn more about people and culture.
>
>
> THE VISION FOR THE FUTURE
> It is the dream that the soc.culture.hmong that this will be a lively
> forum for all people across the globe to discuss, to debate and to
> share all the positive aspects of Hmong issues. As each and everyone
> of us come from different background, different experience, different
> philosophy of life and different expectation, let this to be the forum
> for all of us to learn about one another, to seek understanding and to
> be understood. There will be many issues that we cannot agree but we
> can always learn to respect each other's view point and we can learn to
> agree to disagree and seek common links and work together. Let us all
> meet in this forum in the atmosphere of mutual trust, respect and
> love.
>
> Finally, it is hoped that this forum will also be the beginning for the
> Hmong people who have been scattered around the world to come together,
> not in one place but through cyberspace!"
>
>
>
> --------------------Original Welcome Post -------------------
>
>
> From: Paul Tallon <ptal...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.hmong
> Subject: Welcome to soc.culture.hmong
> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:26:34 -0800
> Organization: University of California, Irvine
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>
> On behalf of Dr. Pao Saykao, who help draft this welcoming letter, I
> would like to welcome you to the brand new soc.culture.hmong (SCHM)
>
>
> As the proponent of the soc.culture.hmong, I like to thank all the
> people around the world who have voted to support the creation of the
> schm. It is timely that this forum has been created to focus on many
> of the Hmong issues (1) with wide implications.
>
>
> BACKGROUND
>
>
> The Hmong have a rich and long history stretch back some 5000 years in
> China. Over the centuries, the Hmong have been migrating from China
> and they reached Laos, North Vietnam and Thailand in the early 1880's
> and they have reached the four corners of the world since 1975.
>
>
> In Laos, they have been actively participate in the building of the
> country and they were involved on both side of politics during the
> Vietnam War (2,3). When the Vietnamese War ended in 1975, about one
> third of the Hmong in Laos found themselves on the wrong side and were
> forced to leave the country with many of other Laotians (4). Since
> then, more than 100,000 of them have been resettled in USA (5), Canada.
> France (6), South America, Australia (7) and New Zealand. Over 100,000
> remain in Laos.
>
>
> Currently, there are probably close to 10 million Hmong with the bulk
> of the population in China. North Vietnam has over 200,000 and
> Thailand with 60,000 plus a few thousands of the residual Hmong
> refugees (11). Hence the Hmong is a scattered group of people whose
> history is driven by the desire to be free and to remain together as a
> group. Now with the internet and this newsgroup, the Hmong are once
> gain connected through cyberspace.
>
>
> INTEREST IN THE HMONG
>
>
> There has been a considerable interest in the Hmong since their
> resettlement in the West (8,9,10). Many scholars from all fields
> find the Hmong to be a fascinating group of people. Here is a group of
> Hmong who have telescoping from a pre-illiterate society to a
> cyberspace society in a matters of less that 20 years. Their history
> is fascinating. Their culture is quite unique and provide a
> kaleidoscopic topic for anthropologist, medical scholars and other
> social scientists. Their bright clothes and their unique handicraft
> have cause a resurgence of interest in the Hmong arts across the globe
> (13,14).
>
>
> Their settlement in the West has provide and endless research topic for
> social science. But it has been a concern to some governments.
>
>
> In the last few years, the Hmong refugees issue has become a sensitive
> issue (12)
>
>
> RATIONALE FOR SOC.CULTURE.HMONG
>
>
> The purpose of the newsgroup "soc.culture.hmong" is to provide a forum
> for discussion on issues related to the Hmong generally. Presently,
> more and more Hmong students and professionals and scholars and others
> who have access to the Internet. This newsgroup will provide the main
> domain for them to congregate, to learn, to share and to develop
> fellowship.
>
> The "soc.culture.hmong" will an extension and complimentary to the
> "soc.culture.laos" and all other existing discussion groups including
> the Hmoob Ntsis Tshiab <h...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Hmong Higher
> Education Network <hhen-califor...@xxxxxxxxxxx>, WWW Hmong
> <hmong...@xxxxxxxxxx>, Hmong Language User Group
> <snow...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> and Hmong Studies Journal
> <vueb0...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> and Lao Global Network
> <lao...@xxxxxxxxxxx>.
>
>
> SOC.CULTURE.HMONG CHARTER
>
> All issues related to Hmong may be discussed in this forum. It is
> expected that although this newsgroup will not be moderated, it will be
> a platform for a lively discussion about the culture, politics and
> social issues relating to Hmong at home and abroad. We welcome all
> netters to learn more about people and culture.
>
>
> THE VISION FOR THE FUTURE
> It is the dream that the soc.culture.hmong that this will be a lively
> forum for all people across the globe to discuss, to debate and to
> share all the positive aspects of Hmong issues. As each and everyone
> of us come from different background, different experience, different
> philosophy of life and different expectation, let this to be the forum
> for all of us to learn about one another, to seek understanding and to
> be understood. There will be many issues that we cannot agree but we
> can always learn to respect each other's view point and we can learn to
> agree to disagree and seek common links and work together. Let us all
> meet in this forum in the atmosphere of mutual trust, respect and
> love.
>
> Finally, it is hoped that this forum will also be the beginning for the
> Hmong people who have been scattered around the world to come together,
> not in one place but through cyberspace!
>
>
> References:
>
>
> 1. Cultural Identity In Post-Modern Society: Reflections on What is a
> Hmong?
>
>
> http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/g450/vueb0001/HER/HSJVolumeOne.html
>
>
> 2. The Hmong in Laos - 1982
>
>
> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/cdr/hmong/hmong-au/hmong82a.htm
>
>
> 3. National-building in Laos: The Hmong in the Lao State
> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/cdr/hmong/hmong-au/hmonglao.htm
>
>
> 4. Refugees from Laos: Historical background and cause
> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/cdr/hmong/hmong-au/refugee.htm
>
>
> 5. Hmong People in the U.S.
> http://minerva.athenet.net/~jlindsay/Hmong_tragedy.html
>
>
> 6. Hmong in France: The Hmong's Corner
> http://lennon.pub.csufresno.edu/~cy011/
>
>
> 7. The Hmong in Australia
> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/cdr/hmong/hmong-au/ozhmong1.htm
>
>
> 8. Recent Research and Publications on the Hmong (1994-1996)
> http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/g450/vueb0001/HER/HSJv1n1Frank.html
>
>
>
> 9. Report on the Hmong in Tasmania
> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/cdr/hmong/hmong-au/hm_tas95.htm
>
>
> 10. Hmong funeral :Upon Meeting the Ancestors
> http://www.tc.umn.edu/nlhome/g450/vueb0001/HER/HSJv1n1Falk.html
>
>
>
> 11. Minority Politics in Thailand: A Hmong Perspective.
> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/cdr/hmong/hmong-au/thaihmg.htm
>
>
> 12. Forced Repatriation of the Hmong Mentioned in the News
> http://minerva.athenet.net/~jlindsay/HmongPC.shtml
>
>
> 13. Hmong Textile
> http://www.lib.uci.edu/sea/hmong.html
>
>
> 14. Hmong Handicraft Exhibition
> http://www.lexicon.net.au/~drpao/hmong/
>
>
> Sinererly,
> Kag Khetsavanh
>
>
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