Re: Moving to Oahu and get a job


On Sun, 22 Jan 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:

"Alvin E. Toda" <aet@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1137907502-sch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Somewhat useful as an index for comparing with other
states. But not usefull if you are trying to make a
statment just about Hawaii. It's the latter that
you're doing and not the former.

Why is it not useful? 

Errors...

Proof? When we're trying to explain to Prince about
how bad jobs here are? I guess if you would want to
research the statistics for this, then you are
welcome to do that.

Some examples? 

?

A boss hiring a pastry chef get a bonus? 

Sure, expecially when the boss makes a better
profit for firing the guy earlier to avoid paying
vacation pay.


First of all, you are once again doing what you seem
to like to do, that is give us examples without a
shred of evidence that is what normally happens.


You don't think that people don't get laid off or fired
just before they get vacation or holiday pay? Big
organizations are more compassionate. Usually they give
those close to retirement a chance to retire to
mitigate a big layoff. But if you and anyone else has
not heard of a relative or friend who got this
treatment with vacation or holiday pay, then you really
haven't lived.

Second, how do you know that they are making a better
profit by firing the guy?  They still need a pastry
chef don't they?  Who is going to make the pastries?
How are they going to make any money if they do not
have a pastry chef to make the pastries?


They can have the fry cook do double duty as he is
doing now. In this job market, employers profit when
they can make their employees do more work. Haven't you
figured that out yet?

Sure he can move onto another job, but it may be just
as bad as the one he has now. Why would any employer
want to hire two cooks to replace him, if they figure
they can always find someone like him who'll wait til
the holidays and his earned vacation pay. Better yet...
they might find a less experienced person who wants a
job and doesn't know any better.

Well, if a boss owns the business, then lik anyone
else, he would want a relatively decent income, as
well as a decent return on his invesment.


"Decent"?? Wrong word. I think the word that you
want to use is "maximise his income". It's the
reason that jobs at the bottom of the heap remain
bad.

That too.  What person in their right mind would not
want to maximize there income?


It's possible that the manager might want more
customers. You get that by having a quality place with
quality employees. You don't pay quality people slave
wages. That's a short term policy and sure to leave you
with a crummy restaurant and more customers for your
competitor next door. But it's possible the manager
also plans to leave after he gets his bonus. He can
claim hard work for getting a good profit despite a
decrease in numbers of customers. CEOs often get
lucretive bonuses for such cost cutting in a bad
business year. You say he would be crazy not to
"maximize" his income? Managers need to know when to
stop that-- the store may close before he gets his
bonus. Do you get the point?

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