Re: More on education budget...



"Lawrence Akutagawa" <ltakuNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> A thought. Why do buildings get hot? I would think they get hot
>> because
>> they are enclosed spaces. How do you prevent the building from
>> getting
>> hot,
>> without using air conditioning? You have buildings with no walls
>> perhaps?
>> If you had school buildings without walls, the cost of building the
>> facility
>> would be a whole lot less wouldn't it? Think of the advantages....
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> Naw...Walls per se don't make buildings hot. Recently here in the SF
> Bay
> Area in the Mare Island former naval shipyard there was a fire that
> destroyed a prime wine storage facility. A lot of expensive wine ($100
> million estimated) was lost. Turns out that some major wine
> connoiseurs/concerns were storing their treasured wine there. Why?
> Because
> the building in question, built by the US military, had three feet
> thick
> walls and was ideal for wine storage as a result. Wine stores best in
> cool,
> stable temperatures...below 70 degrees F, ideally around 55 degrees F.
>
> Any of you who have visited any kind of commercial wine storage
> facility
> know that the temperatures in it is definitely on the cool side. And
> dollars to donuts that facility was either underground or had very
> thick
> walls.
>
> And the old Spaniards in the southwest knew all this when they built
> their
> adobe homes with thick walls.

Well, it is true that any double wall or thick wall will keep internal
temperatures stable. But that is not what they are doing. What they
are
doing it installing air conditioning, which is a recurring cost....
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> So the problem is not walls in and of themselves...it is thin walls.
> Make
> those walls of reinforced concrete (earthquakes, you know) of three or
> four
> feet thick and those students will be in sweaters and coats all year
> round.
> Or build those classrooms underground, as in lava tubes.

But thick walls also cost money.... So it is a tradeoff between a
recurring
cost and a fixed cost....

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