Re: Agamemnon needs assistance
- From: "Henry Hooray" <c2mipq402@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:04:47 -0000
"Agamemnon" <agamemnon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Henry Hooray" <c2mipq402@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "Agamemnon" <agamemnon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> "Henry Hooray" <c2mipq402@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> "Agamemnon" <agamemnon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>> "Henry Hooray" <c2mipq402@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>> Shut up you dissembling liar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everyone knows that you are a holocaust denier because you will not
>>>>> recognise the premeditated massacres of Christians by the Turks as
>>>>> genocide.
>>>>
>>>> I am perfectly happy to use the term "massacre". As Agamemnon knows, I
>>>> have used this term myself.
>>>
>>> It was GENOCIDE.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do not feel comfortable using the term "genocide", because I feel
>>>> that this has more than an undertone of a deliberate attempt to murder
>>>> an entire ethnic grouping (e.g. if it had been Turkish policy to murder
>>>> every single Greek anywhere).
>>>
>>> Holocaust denier.
>>>
>>> Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of
>>> Genocide
>>>
>>> Approved and proposed for signature and ratification or accession
>>> by General Assembly resolution 260 A (III) of 9 December 1948 entry into
>>> force 12 January 1951, in accordance with article XIII status of
>>> ratifications, reservations and declarations.
>>>
>>> The Contracting Parties,
>>>
>>> Having considered the declaration made by the General Assembly of
>>> the United Nations in its resolution 96 (I) dated 11 December 1946 that
>>> genocide is a crime under international law, contrary to the spirit and
>>> aims of the United Nations and condemned by the civilized world,
>>>
>>> Recognizing that at all periods of history genocide has inflicted
>>> great losses on humanity, and
>>>
>>> Being convinced that, in order to liberate mankind from such an
>>> odious scourge, international co-operation is required,
>>>
>>> Hereby agree as hereinafter provided:
>>>
>>> Article 1
>>>
>>> The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in
>>> time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law
>>> which they undertake to prevent and to punish.
>>>
>>> Article 2
>>>
>>> In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts
>>> committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national,
>>> ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
>>>
>>> (a) Killing members of the group;
>>>
>>> (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
>>>
>>> (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life
>>> calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
>>>
>>> (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
>>>
>>> (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
>>
>> If this is the 'official' definition of genocide then allow me to make
>> two points:
>>
>> (1) I do not feel this is a particularly good definitions (for reasons
>> that I have given often enough, but will probably have to repeat
>> specifically for the benefit of Agamemnon and Mhtsos),
>
> Ah yes. Your reasons being that the term genocide can only be applied to
> the massacre of Jews because they are gods one and only chosen people and
> everyone else is impure and not deserving to share gods creation with
> them.
Just as I thought: I shall have to repeat myself for the benefit of
Agamemnon.
Here goes:
"I do not feel comfortable using the term "genocide", because I feel
that this has more than an undertone of a deliberate attempt to murder an
entire ethnic grouping"
And yes, I am fuly aware that Agamemnon still won't be able to comprehend
that somebody who doesn't hate Turks the way he does, and also doesn't hate
Jews ("The Jews are babykilling SCUM worse than Hitler") the way he does, is
not an anti-Semite and a racist like Agamemnon himself.
As Agamemnon is a simple fellow, he reasons as follows: if this guy Henry
doesn't hate Turks, then he must be on their side; and if he doesn't hate
Jews, then that's because he thinks that "they are gods one and only chosen
people and everyone else is impure". Even if I had been Jewish (which I'm
not), then Agamemnon is talking out of his backside.
You are a fool, Agamemnon - there's nothing wrong with a bit of emotion, but
please, do try to let whatever you possess in the way of intellect to get a
look in occasionally.
> That makes you a racist bigot as well as a holocaust denier.
Which 'race' or 'races' is it that I'm 'bigotting' for or against,
Agamemnon?
Isn't it funny how the Nazi murders of six million Jewish men, women and
children, the one and only Holocaust that is being remembered on 26th
January, is still largely and famously denied by the Holocaust denier
Agamemnon, the guy who thinks that "The Jews are babykilling SCUM worse than
Hitler.".
Agamemnon, you are a Holocaust denier.
Henry.
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