Re: American Reactions to French Riots
- From: "John of Aix" <j.murphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:18:34 +0100
dbohara@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Considering the less than helpful attitude of the French toward the US
> adventure in Iraq and the ideas prevalent in France that 9/11 was
> somehow done by the US govt,
Wherever did you get this ridiculous notion from? Of course some believe
that but then some believe the moon landings never happened and that the
Earth is flat.
> a little gloating by Americans over the
> French riots is understandable.
It most certainly is not. The USA was 100% wrong over Iraq and France
100% right. The USA lied constantly and deliberatley about WMDs and
other things. The rednecks have all crawled out of their trailers to
come here showing their astounding ignorance because that fact sticks in
their craw and they hope that they have found a pretext to get their own
back. They are wasting their time.
> Those who are even more cynical and
> inclined toward revenge might conclude that the riots are actually a
> conspiracy by the Chirac government.
They'd be the same ones who think the Earth is flat then.
> However, gloating does not solve problems and I am not a cynic. So,
> we have to decide if this is simply a matter of providing jobs and
> hope for the alienated or if it is something more sinister, a muslim
> effort at jihad in Europe.
It most certainly isn't that, though the danger is there that certain
groups will hide behind these riots and use them to further their ends.
Nor will jobs on their own help, but it will already do a good bit. The
problem is also the attitude of too many French people who are pretty
racist round the gills, though they get upset when you tell them so, and
the attitude of many of the kids themselves. They flunked school, no one
made them flunk it so their whines fall on deaf ears.
> If it is jihad, then most Americans would
> support even extreme measures taken toward muslims as survival of
> western civilization trumps political correctness. If it is simply a
> matter of jobs and hope for the alienated, that is a Euro problem
> that I'll simply watch with curiosity.
> What do the French people think is the cause?
The causes are many, lack of hope and jobs as you say, racism on the
part of the French and general lack of civism on the part of the kids
involved who think that they are entitled to attack public and private
buildings and services and other people because they are hard done by. I
don't just mean during these riots, stones being thrown at police cars,
firemen and buses are not infrequent in some areas which hardly gives
people a good impression. Of course this is a tiny minority but they do
damage to all their fellows and it is up to their fellows to put an end
to it (as some try it must be said).
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