Re: Travolta's aid

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Travolta flew with his own plane to the big easy, delivering a few tons of food and stuff, * and taking the opportunity to promote scientology *
What an ass!

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Well, at least he took a few tons of food and stuff to people who needed it. How many tons of food and stuff have you send?

it helps allright, but is it really decent to turn it into a PR operation for a bull*** sect?



Well, I don't know that he actually did that. All I have is your word.

well, i heard on French news; perhaps US news don't really care about that. Like they don't talk much about foreign assistance.
I have a problem with people using this hurricane for their own purpose. Like that Oprah bitch, for instance, doing an impromptu "reality" teevee show on-fucking-location.
- "U've lost your family/brother/father/uncle? How long it's been since you've seen them? (please cry for the camera)"
- "it's been, like, days, I'm realy anxious, like, I don't know if they're alive or what. Oh geezus, please..."
- "Well, guess what? we've found them poor bastards, and they're right here."
- "What? They're alive!"
- "yeah... here they come (please smile for the camera)"

Talk about decency, man. But you only have my word.


Umm, so you heard on a some French news (channel, website, whatever) that John Travolta had done what you claimed here, but there is no way to verify that it actually occurred, since no one else apparently covered the alleged story. So, explain to me again why I should believe that this ever happened. 

exhibit 1:

http://www.jossip.com/gossip/hurricane-katrina/jossip-juxtaposition-john-travolta-brings-scientology-to-katrina-vics-20050908.php

• John Travolta and fellow Scientologist wifey Kelly Preston descended upon Louisiana, joining a 400-member cast of Church members, to offer "assists" to Hurricane Katrina victims. Or, in layman's terms, they turned the tragedy into a recruiting effort. Unfortunately Tom Cruise was otherwise occupied.


Umm, a gossip page? Is that what you call "hard" news? Interestingly, I click on your link and nothing happens.




exhibit 2:

http://www.snant.com/fp/archives/scientology-and-katrina-ive-stumbled-onto-something-weird/



Why did he feel the need to single out Scientology?

oh, I don't know... perhaps because this organization is dangerous? That is brainwashes and exploits it's members/victims? That it is more an unscrupulous commercial organization than a religion...

And the Buddhists are harmless.



Really? What religion/cult doesn't use dogma to control its subjects? 

well, you don't surprise me



Umm, that doesn't answer my question.



Umm, as far as I know religion is not about control (except, perhaps, for some extremist branches, but then again, these are mistaken and merely use religion has a justification for other purposes). Religion is about faith and this faith does not rely on dogmas. No religion coerces believers into following those dogmas. But, if you sincerely believe, then you accept these dogmas; it's a spiritual and intellectual choice which remains yours and only yours. I don't go to church and I don't have some priest telling me I ought to go to mass or that I ought to do this and that or that I must pay a fee.
A contrario, such is not the case with so-called cults or sects. These have different agendas, and most are commercial organizations that hide themselves behind a dubious "religious" pursuit. Their aim is to control their subjects in order to get what they want from them, usually money. Stories of people that have been ruined and spiritually destroyed by sects are common. That is why most of these are generally considered as criminal organizations and outlawed.

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