Re: Right to travel revisited

On Sep 17, 12:49 pm, Chris Blunt <m...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 00:45:47 GMT, Dirty Sick Pig



<drtysicpig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
joeke...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Sep 15, 8:27 pm, Boracay Bill <boracayb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

DSP Said, "International law (read agreements) state that host nations
are required to notify alien's embassy so that they can ensure their
rights are protected."

sorry Bill that was me...

I knew he was drunk!  Da Pig scores ageyn!

it's an issue here in the states esp. in regards to Mexican nationals
facing execution for crimes they (the press and euro types) keep
pointing to this alleged law (agreement) that states that the embassy
of said individuals must be contacts in order to ensure legal
representation/ rights etc.... but I dont know the exact name of said
item...

Even without a formal agreement, it's a courtesy extended by friendly
governments to one another.  It's not a 100% thingamajig, but hey, when
it's done, it usually works.  It's been practiced for so long that it is
now expected behavior.

It more than just a courtesy, its a requirement contained in the 1963
Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. The relevant section of which
is paragraph (b) of Article 36, which reads:

"if he so requests, the competent authorities of the receiving State
shall, without delay, inform the consular post of the sending State
if, within its consular district, a national of that State is arrested
or committed to prison or to custody pending trial or is detained in
any other manner. Any communication addressed to the consular post by
the person arrested, in prison, custody or detention shall be
forwarded by the said authorities without delay. The said authorities
shall inform the person concerned without delay of his rights under
this subparagraph;"

Chris

Thanks, Chris. Anyone interested can read the full text at
http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/instruments/english/conventions/9_2_1963.pdf

I haven't been able to locate a dated list of signatories and
ratifiers with a quick search, but I would expect that the U.S. and
the Philippines (probably chartered at the time under the 1935
constitution as "the Philippine Islands") were signatories.

As I said to jokerr3 above, this is pretty far afield from the main
topic of this thread.
.

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