Re: Colored people (Re: Hellary, return the cups...)

joekerr3@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On Apr 23, 3:02 am, tumbaga <t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Uhhmmm, I have redbone band's, not Leon Redbone, album, and it is not
bad. Only one song made it big enough, and one LP.





er eh... leon redbone is who it's named after... he now plays strictly
jazz...


Probably, I like Leon Redbone, kinda weird voice. Deep and unintelligible at times..
Uhuh..emm, umm..ehem..
I can't spell that.







High Yellow... the color of a Manila envelope... hispanic toned if
you like . Where the skin looks more yellow than brown/black... these
are highly prized sex symbols in the black community (and with whites
as well). Blacks used to say that it was the perfect skin tone-

Sounds like the typical Filipino skin tone. Yeah, definitely sexy. :-)

Wellllllll... many are a little darker but my wife who is half chinese
seems to fit the bill 8 )

tho it

was usually associated with those who had a high degre of white blood
and were those who worked in the masters house- so it could also be
used as an insult indicating uppity or snottiness.

If they were sons and daughters of their masters, it's no surprise that they
were more privileged. People usually love their children and want them to
prosper.

good point!

The counter argument is "the darker the berry the sweeter the juice"
which is used by afro-cenntrics and racist blacks.

Hehe, that's the proper way to overcome an inferiority complex!

LOL as long as it's done with love LOL

there used to be a list of offical terms for various degrees of white
ancestry- in the south they would trace it to 1/16th !!!!
And these "white" looking people were legally considered Black! In the
Philippines you had indio... mestizo... and so forth DOES anyone know
how many mixed terms they used and to what degree it was measured???

I think the Spaniards didn't differentiate that too much. Not like the Brits
who were obsessed with that stuff.

Oh I'm not so sure- the used terms like indio and mestizo (sp?) and
they definately had a heirarchy based on "Spanishness"... In fact
"guantanamira" (spelling?) is a song about that... it refers to a boy
from either texas or mexico who is in love with a girl from Cuba but
because she's from an area closer to Spain he's considered not good
enough! And they did prefer lighter skin over darker- the more african
the lower class you were! Tho there was more upward mobility I'd say
8 )

There is a verying degree of color a person can have that has a
description in Spanish, from Negro to Mulatto to Morena, from Zambo to
Indio.. etc.. etc.. I just don't know them all.

India has the same descriptions on the various mixtures of races, the
New world also developed a whole set of word for this mixtures.

It does bother me when the darker yo are, the more disenfranchised you
become even among them who are dark skinned, what is wrong with us?
Is it the same among black skinned societies? But we can see that it is
the same. Even without the white men's intervention.- Hide quoted text -



The reason for that is that the lower classes worked in the sun while
the rich stayed in the shade... you can see pictures from every
culture where the rich used umbrellas etc while the poor had to work
in the hot sun.
My maternal grandmother always used an umbrella on sunny days and went
to great lengths to avoid exposure when she could- my mother said her
skin was so white you it was almost translucent! Her father on the
other hand was tall-dark- and handsome 8 )



You said that before, and it makes a lot of sense. My mom and relatives do use a number of umbrellas, one for the sun, another for rain, another for just walking around and for riding in the car.

My mother thinks I would be really interested in her upper class upbringing, I didn't grow up like her, I was half way poor..
In fact, I titled her life story as "Faded Sun", unpublished as of yet, and this is really a typical riches to rags story.

I am interested in how a talented, father who made lots of money and invested in a lot that still affect Filipinos today, the movies, stage, beer and print media could have poor children. Yet they still maintain the arrogance of the former ruling class. Not all of them, since four children (youngest kids) really didn't grew up with him, always hated that attitude and reflected on us grandkids more than the older children.

I am interested in changes, how it affected everyone.
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