Re: Smells (Re: Racism on the Rise in Europe - Is the Philippines affected?)


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but i always thought pheremones worked much closer up to a person and
isn't quite the odour you can detect from a bit of a distance.

That's right. But when a man stands next to you in a packed bus, this
CAN
be close enough.

oh gee yes. i remembered being in a packed bus and i was right behind
this black woman who had hair extensions and offtttt! how that stank!

Some put mud in their hair and let it dry solid.

do they wash their hair regularly? it's really funny, i've never in my
whole life had a black friend, so i've never been able to touch their
hair to feel the texture and to examine the texture of their skin ... i
just see them around wherever i travel in europe.

The texture of frizzy hair is a bit like thin copper wires, you can't get
through it with your usual comb or brush, unless it is cut VERY short.
As for the skin, it seems to me that dark skin feels cooler for unknown
reasons. Until I experienced it, I always expected dark skin to feel WARM,
but it's just the opposite. Maybe because it is a different kind of
temperature management - people from warmer climates must have some kind
of
inbuild 'aircon', while cold climate people need inbuild heating.
If this is not some random experience, I would expect that white skin must
feel warm for Filipinos. What do you say?

i mean, there are some guys you think are gorgeous hunks, but when you
get to the kissing part, you go "hmmm ... something's wrong here".
then when you get to where items of clothing start falling off and you
catch a glimpse of brown stained underwear, you go "forget it! this
guy's a creep!"

Exactly.
Did you know that women are much more sensitive for smells than men?
(Scientifically proved!) That means, for a woman it is more important
that
her partner smells "right" than for a man.

oh yes, that's why i always think in terms of the "matriarchal /
patriarchal" element of a society or a nation. i personally find that
in countries known to be "matriarchal" - the people tend to be
sensitive about bathing and personal odour.

Not sure whether it is a matriarchal / patriarchal thing. I used to think
the availability of fresh water has something to do with it.

which brings to me, i know some nations of asian and whether their
society is matriarchal or patriarchal - but in europe, i feel it's
matriarchal in france considering the influence of catherine de medici
...what is it in germany? and in that vein, i wonder about the u.s.
too.

I think in Germany we have both matriarchal and patriarchal traits, with a
dominance of the patriarchal parts. Hygiene standards are probably lower
compared to the Philippines, but there was a huge melioration within the
last decades, since water supply, washing machines and central heating got
more widespread. Before that, people couldn't bathe that much, especially
in
winter. It's no fun to dive into cold water when you are freezing anyway!
:-)) With central heating and available warm water supply, things got
better.

Sauna Bath Piggy


Personal hygiene, like other human traits, varies not just with local
climate and culture, but with history. The Romans of 2000 years ago were
very big on bathing, and constructed public baths wherever they went
(including Bath, now in England!). In deliberate contrast, many Christians
throughout the middle ages regarded bathing as "luxurious" and sinful,
coddling and weakening the flesh, and so they not only did not get around to
bathing, but in some cases they resolutely opposed it. (There were
Christian saints who were famous for refusing to bathe their entire lives!)

This meant that, by and large, the average European was unwashed when he
encountered the rest of the world - including the Americas and the
Philippines - and found himself *amazed* by the propensity of the
Amerindians and Filipinos (and others living in tropical climates) to bathe
every day. The more devout Spaniards tried to cure the "natives" of this
evil habit; the more easy-going tried bathing a bit more often themselves.

It's really only with the rise of hygiene as a middle-class virtue (in the
Early Modern era, perhaps?) that Westerners began to take pride their own
cleanliness and look down on foreigners as "dirty" in a physical sense. (Of
course they always thought of "The Other" as being "dirty" in a moral sense:
after all We Are Right, so They Must Be Wrong.) And with the development of
the germ theory of diseases and thus the importance of sanitation
(especially clean drinking water), which doesn't take place until the second
half of the 19th century, the West produced _science_ on behalf of its
contention that We Are Clean, All Others Are Dirty.

All of which proves very little - except that it's always wise to be
cautious in attributing longevity to recent cultural patterns.


Oxymoronically Hygienic Pig


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