Re: Filipino boy's eating habits disgusting, school says


tumbaga wrote:

joekerr3@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

SNIP


Interesting, but back then, who actually owns a full service set? If you
do, do you see it used at your home? I seriously doubt it, I think that
argument is terrible.



Actually a full service only includes a Knife,2forks,2spoons for
everyone and a single common butter knife... the formal service which
you're thinking of has a lot more.

Wherever you go in USA when you buy cutlery you get a set- minimum of
which is knife,fork,spoon per person- and all dish sets have
plate,saucer,bowl,cup combo (yes I know you can now buy them
individually but not in those days) these are the minimums and there
shouldn't have been any arguments as to what was paired... the problem
lay in the fact that they didn't use saucers with their cups since they
didn't have any idea what it was used for- most used it as a snack
plate!





Anyway, when i was young, we were taught several ways how service and
the table attiquette is done. Even the Westpoint table ettiqutte is
included. PMA style is also included BTW.

The knife has different placements depending upon nationality, and
Southeast Asians, like Filipinos and Indonesians use both fork and spoon
for formal dining.

It is considered uncouth to use a fork to pick up rice among Southeast
Asians for example, that was during the 60's as well, where the subject
in school was "Good Manners and Right Conduct".
You are also expected to know how to fold the napkins, how to fold
clothes... etc.

I once read a chinese folk story that alleged that the chopsticks were
invented because someone tried to murder the Emporer with a knife and
another used a fork LOL!
Anyway.. pre-industrial Europe relied on the knife as the basic table
tool and the fork was a later invention... the spoon oddly enough was
always available but didn't become widely used as a single item until
the industrial age... fingers were the main tool used!

As for using a knife to eat veggies- just a generation or two back most
formal sets included "pushers" which looked like a bent butter knife (L
shaped) which children used until their hands were big and nimble
enough to use the knife! Most filipino foods don't require a knife and
most filipinos prefer to use a spoon in it's place- even to "cut" the
item into smaller pieces... maybe this was because they had communal
meals instead of the smaller family style common in Europe>>.

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