Re: Hobbit mentality (Re: Nick Joaquin is full of sh*t)


Sylvia Knörr wrote:
> "Cheeze" <csmarasigan@xxxxxxxxx> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> >Sylvia Knörr wrote:
> >> "Cheeze" <csmarasigan@xxxxxxxxx> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> >> news:1130387489.663866.165350@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >Sylvia Knörr wrote:
>
> >> >I believe their smallness is meant to be a critique, that in life, you
> >> >should not be so complacent. It is not for people to choose the time
> >> >in which they live, but it is up to them to choose what to do with the
> >> >time that is given to them.
>
> >> I think it is always just a small pecentage of a society who responds to
> a
> >> challenge. There must be a good balance of couraged and anxious,
> >> conservative and liberal people.
> >> It's not for everyone to be an innovator, an entrepreneur, a conqueror.
> You
> >> need as well people who follow, keep and save the status quo. Of course,
> >> it's usually not someone from the latter group who's making history! :-)
>
> >> >Damn I still love that book.
>
> >> ALTHOUGH it has a happy ending?? ;-)
>
> >Hahah! Okay yes, it was not necessarily tragic. But you know, the
> >leave it to God point is also there.
>
> Bahala na...
>
> >The more you think about the
> >book, the more you appreciate it. I mean granted, it has heroes, and
> >Frodo undertook a great sacrifice and a lot of work himself. But in
> >the end, they won with pure luck. Remember, Frodo himself couldn't
> >throw the ring into the volcano. And unlike in the movie, Gollum just
> >fell off the cliff after jumping from joy. Frodo didn't push him in.
>
> But doesn't that somehow spoil the message of responding to a challenge with
> action istead of a passive fatalistic hobbit mentality?
>

The point was probably "do your best and god will do the rest" or "nasa
diyos ang awa, nasa tao ang gawa." Perhaps the messages was also,
"nothing is possible without God." Remember that Frodo was told by
Gandalf not to kill Gollum as he might have a role to play later on.

Probably JRRT was trying to point out that though sometimes doing the
right thing might sound stupid, you never really know. But I can't say
that I totally agree.


> >I don't know if I agree with that or not. Obviously the book didn't
> >propose inaction, but in the end, its still all up to fate.
>
>
> Was the book / movie a success in the Philippines? I suppose it was, since
> it might have corresponded with some Filipino characteristics.
>
> Ring Bearer Piggy

Apparently so. :-)

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