Re: Without the rich, there will be no work
- From: "Just JT" <JohnnyThor@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 06:54:38 +1000
Sabi ni "H Dickmann" <HERPEM@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
>>> There was a time when Filipinos used to live a simple life, but where
>>> happy and contented.
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>> I wonder when this was. Pre-Spanish period?
>
> It still is that way in some remote places where they are not bombarded
> with consumerism.
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The remote places where people have no access to civilization. These places
are where people die when they get sick. I wouldn't want to live in those
remote areas.
>>>
>>> There is nothing wrong with hard work. The point is, in most cases you
>>> can only get rich on the back of workers.
>> ----------------
>> Workers are a dime a dozen.
>
> And that is what is wrong with capitalism.
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Capitalism is not a perfect system but it is the BEST SYSTEM. In a
capitalist society, people who are willing to work hard will be rewarded. In
a socialist society, people who work hard are punished. The government
steals their money in the guise of "wealth distribution" to give away to the
lazy in the guise of the "poor."
If socialism were a better system, why are the people of Puerto Rico better
off than those of Cuba? Why are South Koreans better off than North Koreans?
Please answer these questions.
I remember what was taught in school. During quizzes and exams, YOU ARE ON
YOUR OWN. If you try to help your seatmate, you and your seatmate are
punished. Even with group work where everyone works as a team, the team
members who work hardest are rewarded with good grades and the team members
who did little or nothing are punished with poor grades. Why should society
be different?
>
> You are wrong there. A worker can sell what he produces. Workers can form
> co.operatives and sell their products. Workers can live without big
> business, but big business can't excist without workers.
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Cooperatives only work in a farming society. Well, guess what sir, we are no
longer a farming society. Tell me that cooperatives can invent and build
cars, electronic goods, software and other things besides food?
By the way, if the only wealth we create is food, guess what, we'll all be
serfs tilling the land. Sorry, but I hate milking cows. And I'd rather die
than be forced to stimulate the bull's sexual activity by shoving my arm up
its arse. :-)
>>
>>> they need workers to produce and they increase their wealth by what the
>>> workers produce.
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>> The rich can invent robots so there'll be less need for workers.
>
> You first have to work out how you can make the robots buy the things they
> produce.
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Robots will not eliminate all workers. Someone has to produce the robot.
Someone has to invent the robots. But the mindless and monotonous work will
go.
>
> If not everyone can become rich, then why is capitalism so good?
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Because there are less POOR people in a capitalist society. The poor have a
chance to make it rich in a capitalist society if they will only invest in
knowledge and education. In a socialist society, EVERYONE save for the
supreme ruler IS POOR. Checkout Cuba and North Korea.
--
DalubSocialismKillsTheHardWorking
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