Re: Dan Christensen's desperate slander campaign exposed for what it is.



On 6/03/2011 7:56, CubaFAQ wrote:
On Mar 5, 4:18 pm, PL<pl.nos...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 5/03/2011 21:59, CubaFAQ wrote:
On Mar 5, 2:49 pm, PL<pl.nos...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 5/03/2011 18:08, CubaFAQ wrote:

On Mar 5, 5:46 am, PL<pl.nos...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 5/03/2011 7:31, CubaFAQ wrote:> To summarize:

(snip)

Dan Christensen false claimed I was ever the owner of the "Cubafaq"
website that bears the same name behind which he hides.

Again, there is the incredible coincidence(snip)

No coincidence.
Like many other blogs he took the feed.

In addition to your identical postings here and at your

not mine.

> cheap,

not cheap, the guy builds stuff technically far superior that anything
you ever eid, Dan

imitation

No imitation, Dan, you taking the name here is the "imitation".
Yor website isn't called "Cubfaq" it is called "Cuba: issues and answers".

My Cuba page has always been CubaFAQ.html.
(snip)

That is just the file extension of a page you idiot.
This file has an "name" i.e. extension index.html. Accopdring to your reasoning that means the site is called "index".
Thanks for confirming you are an idiot.

cubafaq website,

Up now I was told.

Sadly, no longer at WordPress.

actually the guys seems very happy.
I won't bother you with

Note the database now goes back to 2005.http://cubafaq.impela.net/


Why bother? Google News goes back to 1990.

A lot easier, more to the point (all about Cuba), only news (not your tirades of lies and insults), ...
Deal with it Dan.
Amnther great resources for those researchis Cuba.

there is the matter of their timing.(snip)-

Idiot.
If someone subscribes to a feed posts are instantaneous.y

What does this have to do with anything?

The publication of the feed determines when file is uploaded and published.
No "push" technology though. the blog pings the feed for updates.

nothing in the
weeks between December 21 and February 3(snip)

and the feed was indeed completely down, the wordpress sites were down and being moved and the feed server itself was being moved aand upgraded in software.

Thanks for exposing your own lies again, Dan Christensen.

Now he got the database.
Lots of third parties use the full - or part of - the feed.
It is a simple process.
People us the feed and add their sources to it or they just go with what
people post in to the feed. Their decisions.

All of your usual sources were up and running in your time off here
from December 21 to February 3. D(snip)

Nope.
Nothing was running at the time as servers were changed and blogs were
moved.

Bullshit.

Fact.

All the newspapers were still publishing online.(snip)

But the feedserver that is NOT fed by downloading RSS feeds from the newspapers but by posts from the interested members was down.
We don't just download newsfeeds from newspapers in the feed.
I lok at the press and upload what I like as others do. Lots never gets beyond the feedserver and just is there in the database for research and reference. Other go in to publication (posted to SCC or newssites).
I told you Dan that the only effect of the slander campaigns, threats (even murder)and attacks on me was that people joined the effort.
We now have a great group of people and with the addition of Cubafaq
a guy that is strong in some techniques of Wordpress.

You see, Dan, as always the facts confirm what I say.


No, they don't.


Yes they do, Dan.
The harder you try to slander me, the more you you expose yourself as the desperate slanderous liar you are.

When the website was wiped and the standard "404" type message appeared
saying the site was archived (meaning no longer active),

Still in denial, I see. It still says: "This blog has been archived or suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service" athttp://cubafaq.wordpress.com/(snip)

Nope.
Still stating facts.
the text starts saying the site was "archived".

Archived or suspended for a violation of Terms of Service.

and archived it is as there was no violation of TOS, but a move in the
period you indicated above.

Bullshit. F(snip)

Fact.

After Cubafaq contacted us and shared his expertise the kids decided to
join up and create bigger and better sites.

Yeah, right!

Yeah, very right.

Wordpress.com was no good
venue for them due to technical constraints.

You mean legal constraints.

Nope
lots of people post news from various sources there as anyone can see.

https://hiram7.wordpress.com/2007/06/25/france-and-usa-push-darfur-action/
https://guineaoye.wordpress.com/

and have been doing so for a long time.

The kids had a lot of work
in moving and redesigning sites and blogs.

I imagine there was quite a panic when WordPress pulled the plug on
you. Had to call up your "business partners," eh?


Dan tried to
claim the site had been axed for abuse.

I just pointed out the fact that, according to WordPress,(snip)

What the cowardly PL snipped:

(snip)

Replied to and I have shown that this message also is posted for sites
that are archived i.e. abandoned.

You simply made the claim.

Nope.
I have shown that the claim you made is a lie.
Even the text on the deleted sites doesn't confirm what you way.
It is the standard "404" page.

They don't say that.
They say it was archived.

Archived or suspended for a violation of Terms of Service.

Yep.
And in this case the first applies as there are no violations.

Again, the message at your old imitation website states:

"cubafaq.wordpress.com is no longer available. This blog has been
archived
(snip)

and here you have the whole truth posted by Dan Christensen.

Mr. Lobbyist.
(snip)

In fact you are the only one that is a lobbyist, Dan, be it an amateur and more importantly failed one.

Thanks for allowing me to post the rest of the story on your slanderous attacks and lies, Dan.
You know I only post it when you use that lie and insult.

THE STANDARD REPLY TO DAN'S LIES AND PERSONAL INSULTS.

again Dan Christensen shows what a hypocrite liar he is.
He is the one doing the "attacking" with his lies and slander.
As all can see I only post this piece that exposes his lies when he
has started his slanderous attacks.
That by the way is in general within a couple of exchanges on the
facts of the case involved as by then he is so stuck that he has to
resort to lies and insults.

Please note that lies combined with personal attacks only destroy
your credibility, Dan.

Dan Christensen knows I am not a lobbyist and that it is all just a
slander campaign.
As a good follower of Goebbels he keeps repeating his lies in the hope
that something will stick and that he maybe can mislead some people
that
don't know what he is all about.
Desperate Dan Is doing his bit in the slander campaign of the "rat
pack"
he is associated with. The contribution of his pals at the Centre
Ernesto Che Guevara in this group recently just shows what Dan and his
cronies are all about: lies, insults, slander and intimidation.

Actually: given your actions in the past Dan you fit the lobbyist
profile a lot closer.

You contact people in support of the Cuban regime and with the aim to
have them change the content of their website or change public
statements. You even pose as a "journalist" or "researcher" while
doing so.
The fact that you have been utterly unsuccessful at it and that only
your website suffered the removal of pages just shows what a bad
lobbyist you are.

Your Club Med, lobbying, CIA lies are exposed again


Links to the threads Dan produces his "lobbyist" misquotes from and
the exposure of his lies by others:

For those that want to see the full thread and the complete messages
in their context (which Dan Christensen desperately hopes nobody will
as it will expose his lies), here is a link to the threads concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/5fb621a1396ecc6c/2602f5eb5bd1c2ed?hl=3D3Den=3DE0=3DA8=3DAAf5eb5bd1c2ed
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/56e1a7b9ca6c61e3/9cfde811fd6c7414?#9cfde811fd6c7414

To Dan Christensen's great frustration his lies by now have been
exposed by various other people in other threads like:
http://groups.google.be/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/ac34bd501ab58b97?dmode=3D3Dsource
http://groups.google.be/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/848321c82da3bbda

Dan Christensen lied when he claimed I had stated that I had been at
Club Med in Varadero - a hotel he tried to depict as a sleazy sex
resort - to "lobby" people.
Just one example:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/4b7720708da65ee0?dmode=3D3Dsource
Dan Christensen even suggested the whole trip was paid for by the CIA
thereby accusing Belgian officials of not only sexual impropriety, but
also of active corruption.
You see: Dan Christensen just doesn't know when to stop lying and gets
caught up in his "cloak and dagger" childish fantasies.
His lies are so over the top that it all become a big joke that people
can easily see though.
Here is one example of how serial liar Dan Christensen was exposed.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/848321c82da3bbda?dmode=3D3Dsource

The lies of Dan Christensen about me that were exposed:
- his lie about me playing golf to "lobby": exposed. Dan Christensen
had to admit there were no quotes to support any of that.
- his lie about singles resorts and schmoozing: exposed as various
people stated that it is merely a family resort that even had a circus
school for children
- his lie about me being in Varadero: exposed as Dan Christensen had
to admit I never said I was there
- his lie that it were all "CIA junkets" exposed as Dan Christensen
ran like hell when he realized that this lie could expose him to legal
sanctions
- his lie that I had "self-confessed" anything: exposed by people that
put the snippets Dan Christensen abusively posts in context (as shown
in this message)
All Dan Christensen's lies have been exposed by various people.

as I said comrade
Dan: whenever you post your lies about me I post the truth about you.
Your record of lies, innuendo, insults and support of human rights
abuses discredits you.
All shame you brought on yourself by your attitude and actions.

The exposure of the "lobbyist" lie in further detail.

Dan Christensen's abuse of misquotes has been exposed over and over
again. He just aped the lie of another apologist that dropped that
specific lie very quickly. The guy is indeed smarter than stupid Dan.
When Dan Christensen tried to come up with his own "new and
improved" version of the lie he fell flat on his face.
He claimed I had been "lobbying" people In Geneva while his Rat Pack
pal "cuba libre" that stalked me then showed from an IP address from
which I had posted something that I was in Santiago de Cuba at the
time. One Rat Pack member exposing another's lies with the result of
his cyber stalking. Ironic.

Dan's other exposed false claim:
"Taking a little break from arm-twisting in Geneva, Mr. Lobbyist?"
Link:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/b6375f9783e47aee?q=3D3Dg:thl174670614d&dq=3D3D&hl=3D3Den&lr=3D3D&ie=3D3DUTF-8

Again it is clear what a pathetic loser Dan Christensen is.

Below you will find what is behind Dan Christensen's slanderous
campaign: facts he can't deny.

- Frustration

I exposed Dan Christensen as a fraud in this group years ago when I
blew his "cover". In SCC he tried to portray himself as an
"independent
interested party" with no political agenda.
When I came across a blatantly different reply to a similar question
in a Stalinist e-group to which I had been invited I posted it to show
his lying hypocrisy.
Since then he has been pissed as hell as it undermined his lying
propaganda effort to mislead "those in the background" (his own words,
those that didn't have "local knowledge". He himself admitted in the
same e-group that propagandist like him can never "convince" those
with "local knowledge". In frequent exchanges he got some mad he often
forgot to keep up the pretense and made him show his hand and true
nature:

Quote:
"In my opinion the advances made by the Revolution are morally well
worth fighting for and justify the use of these extraordinary
measures. In this case, the ends do indeed justify the means.
.....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
These measures, however, would NOT be morally justified in propping
less worthy regimes in the region -- the USA and its vassal states in
the
Caribbean and Latin America come immediately to mind."

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3D3Den&lr=3D3D&ie=3D3DUTF-8&selm=3D3DtirG3.176162%245r2.278940%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca

"It is wrong to think that a particular end justifies EVERY means. At
this time, for example, it would be wrong of the Cuban government to
send death squads after their opponents as happens in Mexico and
Colombia. Again, the actions of the Cuban government in detaining
these so-called dissidents seem quite mild in comparison and are
morally justified under the circumstances."

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3D3Den&lr=3D3D&ie=3D3DUTF-8&selm=3D3DtxMG3.176443%245r2.284921%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca

That meant he was exposed a the hypocrite liar he is. It showed that
the false claims he made about others (support of genocide, torture,
abuses, ..) in fact only applied to him.

I have also frequently exposed his lies about facts and people in SCC.

Dan Christensen once claimed:
"It is clear from Smith's article here (and his website, CIP Online)
that he does, in fact, support an immediate and unconditional lifting
of your beloved embargo."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/3f1fe3a55c12d7d7?dmode=3D3Dsource&hl=3D3Den


Mr. Smith's own words:

'We should reduce tensions, not aggravate it, making it clear to the
Cuban government that we do not have hostile intentions toward them,''
Smith
said during a 40-minute speech at a conference titled Cuba and the
United States: Relations in Permanent Conflict, Causes, Effects and
Solutions.
''I did not say lift the embargo without conditions,'' he said.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/cuba/12157593.htm
You can enter after a free registration.
Permanent copy in the Cubaverdad archive:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/16823

Then there is the issue of his lying website: acting with a third
person I had pages removed (for violations of law, slander, ...), I
have shamed him in to changing it on
various occasions (adding links that would then expose his lies,
remove lying caption from pictures, ...) and I have in general exposed
the lies on it (on Amnesty International for example)

What Dan claimed on his website (the misquote):
"Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly
denounced the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear
its support for the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel
sanctions"
http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ215.html
now moved to:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/danchristienses/CubaFAQ215.html

Link to the "report": (the one Dan didn't give until I shamed him in
to it)
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=3D3DENG-CUB

where the only thing Amnesty international asks for "immediately and
unconditionally" is the release of political prisoners.

Quote:

"in 1.
"On the basis of the available information, therefore, Amnesty
International considers the 75 dissidents to be prisoners of
conscience
(2) and calls for their immediate and unconditional release."

In 8.1
" to immediately and unconditionally release the 15 prisoners
previously named by Amnesty International as prisoners of conscience.

" to immediately and unconditionally release anyone else who is
detained or imprisoned solely for having peacefully exercised their
rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly."
end of quote

- Dogmatic hatred.

Dan Christensen is a hard-line Stalinist. His first steps in SCC were
to defend Stalin and in other forums he has praised "workers
democracy" under Stalin.
He has admitted that he is ready to fight to the last Cuban (from his
comfortable armchair in Canada) for his cause.
By posting the reports from the international press, human rights
organizations and Cuban independent journalists I have exposed his
propaganda as a lie. That makes the man wild with rage.
As he like to see himself as the "victim" (he once claimed he was
being censored in SCC) he therefore lashes out at people claiming that
those that contradict him are "CIA" agents (as if the CIA would care
about a third rate liar as Dan) and professional "lobbyists" probably
to make himself feel that he is "important" and to explain away his
complete propaganda failure (portraying himself as "overcome by
unsurmountable institutional odds").

- Personal hate and the "rat pack"

Dan has suffered the trauma of having part of his website remove
after a long battle over the personal attacks and falsifications he
had posted there.
The frequent exposures of his lies and hypocrisy only fueled the
personal hatred.
Dan ganged up with various other propagandists that people that have
been attacked by them refer to as the "rat pack". I have been the
target of the lies and slanderous insults of this "rat pack".
They specialize in online slander (from posting private information,
attacking their business or businesses they are associated with,
inciting others to harass people, over accusing people of being "CIA
agents" or "lobbyists" to the worst things one can imagine) and direct
harassment (phone calls, letters, letters with razor blade or white
powder, loitering in front of people's houses,.. up to death threats
in France).
All they succeeded in doing was to dramatically increase traffic to a
website I participate in ( www.cubaverdad.net ) and to suffer the
consequences of their slander.
Dan Christensen had part of his website removed. The Centre Che in
France had their complete website removed and their "secretary" known
here as "cubalibre" real name François Valy was sentenced to 6 months
in
jail for a whole series of abuses (including racism). A Spanish
"subsidiary" of the rat pack still has a surprise coming.
All because of their lies were exposed.

But then in the end this is what it boils down to: those that don't
have rational arguments find themselves exposed as the liars they are.
When that happens all they have left are the old
slander tactics: they attack the people that expose their lies in the
hope that they can intimidate them.
If Dan Christensen felt he had any chance to convince people directly
he would try to do so by posting facts and arguing facts.
He is reduced to snipping, posting the same snippets over and over
again, lies and slander.
As long as he and the rest of the "rat pack" (and their hangers on)
are reduced to that they expose" their own failure as Dan Christensen
does here every time.
Fine by me.

PL

"The Cuban government is based on lies and cheap propaganda. That is
why it is afraid of words and the truth."
Raul Rivero, April 2006, University of Sevilla
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