Alas, PL STILL supports the US killing of Cuban children



On Sep 17, 3:08 pm, PL <pl.nos...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[snipping portions of PL's posting already debunked here, or just too
lame to bother with]

On 17/09/2010 18:10, CubaFAQ wrote:

http://cubafaq.wordpres

[snip]

PL's cheap imitation website here seems meant only to confuse readers.
Like his 3 other websites, this is nothing more than a shell for cut-
and-paste news articles already widely available on the web -- no
actual FAQ's as the name would suggest, and no original content
whatsoever. And half the links at the homepage are to PL's 3 other
websites! It has a Google Page Rank of 0/10 (i.e. no traffic or links
to speak of).

On the other hand, my CubaFAQ website is full of original material.
Prior to changing ISP's, it had a Google Page Rank of 5/10. To see
why, after 10 years, it STILL has the ever-desperate PL shitting his
pants, visit my website at: http://www3.sympatico.ca/danchristienses/CubaFAQ.html
(note new address).


People were
screaming and begging to be rescued, but those on the tugboats showed no
pity. They circled us and made whirlpools in the water, causing men,
women and children to be lost forever in a black sea of despair.

[snip]

Physically impossible. But when did even stop a desperate propagandist
like you, eh, Mr. Lobbyits?

Again, there is no credible proof the sinking of the "13 de Marzo" was
part on some high-level conspiracy to somehow "make an example" of
these hijackers. On the contrary, as even Amnesty International said
in their deeply flawed report, the immediate reaction of the Cuba
government was to declare a moratorium on intercepting ANY boats
leaving the island. What kind of "example" was that? Needless to say,
the US regime was not amused. Some even called it an "act of war."
They demanded Cuba do its part to stem illegal immigration to the US.
(20,000 Cubans were then legally emigrating to the US every year.)
They also required the US Coast Guard to pick up illegal Cuban
immigrants at sea and repatriate them.

As such, the only genocide here is indeed your beloved embargo.
Whatever it takes, right, Mr. Lobbyist?

In 10 years Dan Christensen has been unable to como up with even ONE
quote from a reputable international organization referring to the trade
sanctions as "genocide".

[snip]

As we see here, Amnesty International has condemned your beloved
embargo in no uncertain terms, all but calling for the arrests of the
perpetrators of these cruel and inhumane sanctions of yours. Their
recent reports (see footnotes) prove that, under international law
(Article 2c of the UN Genocide Convention), that they are indeed a
form of genocide. Whatever it takes, right, Mr. Lobbyist?

Dan can hardly deny Fidel Castro's "crimes against humanity" any more as
Fidel has openly confessed to them. A complaint at the International
Tribunal in the Hague is on its way.

Only in your genocidal wet dreams,(snip)


What the cowardly apologist PL snipped for all too obvious reasons:

Only in your genocidal wet dreams, Mr. Lobbyist. As we see below, it
is the US regime (and its lackeys) who are most likely to find
themselves in the dock at the Hague for deliberately setting out to
"deprive Cubans of vital access to medicines, new scientific and
medical technology, food, chemical water treatment and
electricity.” (Don't forget your toothbrush, Mr. Lobbyist!)

Nope In, reality.

"Grupo gay brasileño demandará a Fidel Castro en La Haya
Miércoles 01 de Septiembre de 2010 22:10 DDC

[snip]

Like many other such petitions, it won't go anywhere. Not long ago it
was crime to be a homosexual in many Western countries -- one
punishable by jailing and draconian "therapies." To my knowledge, none
of the leaders of these countries have ever been prosecuted. Today,
Cuban policies in this area are exemplary. Today, your political
masters, however, continue to inflict genocidal trade sanctions that
target Cuban children and other vulnerable groups. Whatever it takes,
right, Mr. Lobbyist?

Medical exports
"The U.S. says it approved $142 million in commercial and donated
medical exports to the communist island in 2008. So why did less than
1 percent of it get there?"
"It's not the embargo," said John Kavulich, a senior policy adviser
at the New York-based U.S.-Cuba Economic Trade Council, which provides
nonpartisan commercial and economic information about Cuba.

[snipping more of PL's same old Nazi-style lies and rationalizations]

Stop calling other people "Nazi" hypocrite.
you are the only one with Nazi attitudes:

[snip]

You are the one who has repeatedly refused (literally hundreds of
times now) to even comment on -- never mind condemn! -- the murder and
torture of opponents of the Bush regime in its vast network of secret
prisons around the world. Given this tacit support for murder and
torture, and your well known enthusiasm for genocide (see footnotes),
it is easy to imagine the reign of terror you would unleash on the
Cuban people if you ever had the chance again. Whatever it takes,
right, Nazi boy?

One camp-guard denies everything,(snip)


What the cowardly apologist PL snipped for all too obvious reasons and
refuses to address:

One camp-guard denies everything, eh, Mr. Lobbyist? Get real! The word
of one US apologist is not going to overturn the mass of evidence
accumulated against the US regime by the likes of Amnesty
International and the UN (see footnotes).

No one is buying into your Nazi-style lies and rationalizations -- not
the UN, not groups like AI or even the Catholic Church. As you know,
in November 2009, with the exceptions of only Israel and a handful of
tiny, US island-colonies in the South Pacific, representatives of
EVERY nation on the planet -- including your own -- voted at the UN
General Assembly to condemn these cruel and inhumane sanctions. Only a
few days ago, the Catholic Church reiterated its longstanding
opposition to them. They didn't seem to think much of your
rationalizations, did they? Even these "dissident" pals of yours --
supposedly the "who's who" of the so-called "opposition" in Cuba --
signed a statement condemning them. That's gotta hurt!

As shown the man in hardly anti-Castro: he wants to promote trade.

[snip]

Very evasive, Mr. Lobbyist. Again, the word of one US apologist is not
going to overturn the mass of evidence accumulated against the US
regime by the likes of Amnesty International and the UN (see
footnotes). But thanks for confirming (by your cowardly snipping and
running) that no one seems to buying into your self-serving lies and
rationalizations. Must be frustrating as hell for you.


The 1948 Geneva Convention on Genocide article 2 is quoted in a very
misleading way by serial liar Dan Christensen:.

Only you are trying to mislead people, Mr. Lobbyist.

Nope.


Yup.

The text: (1)
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts
committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national,
ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life
calculated
to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

Thanks for confiming I was right.(snip)

actually the oppiste.
I exposed your lies.
that is why you snipped it all.

The 1948 Geneva Convention on Genocide article 2 is quoted in a very
misleading way by serial liar Dan Christensen:.

[snipping PL's same old Nazi-style lies and rationalizations]

As predicted the cowardly apologist PL has snipped my reply to his
self-serving lies and rationalizations and simply reposted them word-
for-word as though nothing had happened! What a loser! But thanks for
confirming that not even a die-hard apologist like you can deny that
such sanctions would result in the deaths and needless suffering of
children and other vulnerable groups. (See my previous posting.)
Whatever it takes, right, Mr. Lobbyist?

Time to be a man for once, Mr. Lobbyist. Time to finally stand up for
what you REALLY believe. And we both know it has absolutely NOTHING to
do with "human rights." don't we?

Dan
Visit my CUBA: Issues & Answers website at its new home:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/danchristienses/CubaFAQ.html
(The original CubaFAQ website. Don't be fooled by PL's cheap
imitations.)

PS: As an antidote to each of PL's venomous personal attacks here, and
to his lies and evasions on everything from his lobbying exploits to
the international condemnation of his beloved embargo, see: "PL's same
tired old lies and evasions EXPOSED" at
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/36c96cf26743ccca?hl=en


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Footnotes (which the cowardly apologist PL keeps snipping and refuses
to address)

The facts as documented in reports recently released by Amnesty
International (my emphasis):

March 2009

"Amnesty International urges the US government to lift the nearly five-
decade long economic and trade embargo against Cuba as it is
detrimental to the fulfillment of the economic and social rights of
the Cuban people. It OBSTRUCTS AND CONSTRAINS efforts by the Cuban
government to purchase essential medicines, medical equipment and
supplies, food and agricultural products, construction materials and
access to new technologies.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR25/002/2009/en/e7b1efe4-27f4-4b2c-9a39-23c88749e39e/amr250022009en.html

September 2009

"The US embargo against Cuba is IMMORAL and should be lifted. It’s
preventing millions of Cubans from benefiting from vital medicines and
medical equipment essential for their health."

"Because of the US embargo, Cuba faces SEVERE RESTRICTIONS in
importing medicines, medical equipment or technologies from the USA or
from any US company abroad. The sanctions also limit other imports to
the island and restrict travel and the transfer of money."

http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/president-obama-should-take-lead-lifting-embargo-against-cuba-20090902

"Amnesty International calls on the US Congress to take, WITHOUT
FURTHER DELAY, the necessary steps towards lifting the economic,
financial and trade embargo against Cuba...

"The US government is acting CONTRARY to the Charter of the United
Nations by restricting the direct import of medicine and medical
equipment and supplies, and by imposing those restrictions on
companies operating in third countries."

"The UN General Assembly has repeatedly CONDEMNED the US embargo as
contrary to the Charter of the United Nations and international law.
On 29 October 2008 the UN General Assembly passed a resolution
reiterating for the 17th time its call on the USA to end its embargo
against Cuba. That resolution was adopted with 185 votes in favour,
three against and two abstentions. The Inter-American Commission on
Human Rights has also reiterated its position regarding “the impact of
such sanctions on the human rights of the Cuban people and, therefore,
INSISTS THAT THE EMBARGO BE LIFTED.”

[Follow-up: In November 2009, with the exceptions of only the USA,
Israel and a handful of tiny, US island-colonies in the South Pacific,
representatives of EVERY nation on the planet voted at the UN General
Assembly to condemn these cruel and inhumane sanctions.]

"[E]xports of food and agricultural products to Cuba remain regulated
by the Department of Commerce and require a licence for export or re-
export. The export of medicines and medical supplies continues to be
SEVERELY LIMITED....

“The RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED BY THE EMBARGO help to deprive Cuba of vital
access to medicines, new scientific and medical technology, food,
chemical water treatment and electricity.”

"The provision of health care has suffered from the LIMITATIONS AND
RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED BY THE EMBARGO on the procurement of basic and
specialized medical equipment and chemical components needed for the
production of generic medicines....

"Cuba was UNABLE TO IMPORT nutritional products destined for children
and for consumption at schools, hospitals and day care centres. This
had an adverse effect on the health and nutritional status of the
population.

"Children’s health was also put at risk by a decision from syringe
suppliers to CANCEL an order for 3 million disposable syringes by
UNICEF’s Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization when it became
known that the units were destined for the implementation of the
programme in Cuba.

"The number of children suffering from heart conditions who are
waiting for appropriate treatment at a pediatric hospital has
increased after Cuba was unable to buy from the US-based companies the
necessary medical equipment for their treatment. The companies
allegedly refused to negotiate with Cuba because of the RESTRICTIONS
SET BY THE US EMBARGO.

"LACK OF ACCESS to products manufactured by United States companies
such as St. Jude Medical, Boston Scientific and Amplatzer prevents the
provision of proper care to seriously ill patients who need a
pacemaker, St. Jude prosthetic valves or septal occluders, forcing
their treatment with alternative, riskier surgical techniques.

"It has been IMPOSSIBLE TO PURCHASE a positron emission tomography/
computerized tomography (PET/CT) scanner, a state-of-the-art piece of
medical equipment needed for treatment that is made by only three
manufacturers worldwide, all unauthorized to negotiate with Cuba."

The impact of economic sanctions on health and health services is not
limited to difficulties in the supply of medicine. Health and health
services depend on functioning water and sanitation infrastructure, on
electricity and other functioning equipment such as X-ray facilities
or refrigerators to store vaccines. The financial burden and
commercial barriers have led to shortages or intermittent availability
of drugs, medicines, equipment and spare parts. It has also hindered
the renovation of hospitals, clinics and care centres for the elderly.

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR25/007/2009/en/51469f8b-73f8-47a2-a5bd-f839adf50488/amr250072009eng.pdf
(PDF format)

Note that Article 2c of the UN Genocide Convention states that the
crime of genocide includes, among other things, "deliberately
inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about
its physical destruction in whole or in part."

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/genocide.htm

Again, as Amnesty International has reported, “The restrictions
imposed by the embargo help to deprive Cuba of vital access to
medicines, new scientific and medical technology, food, chemical water
treatment and electricity.” These are deliberate acts, the only
purpose of which can be to bring about the physical destruction of the
Cuban people in whole or in part. These cruel sanctions can,
therefore, even be seen as a form of genocide under international law!
Makes you proud, don't it, America?

Also, according to at least one US expert, in addition to blocking
essential imports, the US embargo is also a major impediment to the
development of agriculture and food production in Cuba:

"William A. Messina Jr., of the University of Florida's Agriculture
Science Institute, said that the communist island 'has such good soil
and it represents a challenge of such magnitude that, with the END OF
THE EMBARGO, the agricultural market impact on the continent would be
larger that of the Free Trade Treaty.'''
Source: "Cuba's agriculture shows promise," Miami Herald, Sept. 9,
2009
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/1258504.html

Contrary to PL's self-serving lies and rationalizations then, no
amount of US exports (or anything else) can possibly let his political
masters off the hook for deliberately depriving Cubans of "vital
access to medicines, new scientific and medical technology, food,
chemical water treatment and electricity” and impeding the
development of food production. Morally and legally, this is genocide.
.



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