Re: Searching Without Success for Detergent in Cuba, Where H1NI Has Fertile Ground to Reproduce

COMRADE Dan Christensen, Canadian Communist Party propaganda ministry
"Dan Christensen" <dchris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:7bf9dcd4-6663-4dd3-a015-5daf07b1cd5e@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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> > What of their condemnation for the oppression in Cuba of the people by
> > the Cuban government? You're pretty selective in your quoting Comrade
> > Christensen.

>> What's your point, Kennykins? That everything AI reports about your
>> beloved embargo Amnesty International is a lie?
> I agree with their disapproval of the embargo.

> Sorry, Kennykins, I'm just not buying into this bullshit about you
> opposing these cruel sanctions. The rationalizations are just coming
> too fast and furious.

You see, COMRADE, the difference between us is that you WHINE like a
baby and see them as "cruel."

COMRACE C> Strangely, so does AI, the UN, the OAS and the Catholic Church. Ooops,
COMRADE C> I forgot, they are all a bunch of liars, right, Kennykins?

But NONE of those organizations use the same language you do. WHY do you suppose that is? Danny, YOU are the one who called them liars when they speak of the human rights abuses by YOUR ideal form of government. We can go down a list of your COMMUNIST governments who have all killed many more people than Hitler did. The USSR under your HERO, Joe Stalin murdered FIVE TIMES as many people as Hitler. Pol Pot who nearly killed twice as many. Chairman Mao who killed almost 10 times as many. The father and son tyrants in North Korea who also has killed more. Hitler was a piker in contrast.

I see them as counter productive even if RICHLY DESERVED.

COMRADE C> How interesting. I guess, it's whatever it takes, right, Kennykins?

Cuba's actions have brought it on themselves.

> Can you claim the same about their condemnation of the police state in
> Cuba?

> No. Do I have to be a Catholic to cite statements made by the Catholic
> Church? Of course not. Likewise, I do not have to accept everything
> published by AI to cite reports from them that I believe to be true.

Oh, let me see if I get this, the things that suit your COMMUNIST agednda are GOSPEL, the things that refuye it are all LIES. GOTCHYA, Comrade. So does the rest of the audience not already Marxist, and even some of them snicker at you.

So in essence, you cherry-pick what things from the sources you hold ujp
as gospel and the rest is bullshit, is that about it, Danny?

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COMRADE C> You didn't get too far in school, did you, Kennykins? I can cite any
COMRADE C> sources I want to make my point. Readers, of course, can judge the
COMRADE C> credibility of the sources for themselves.

They can also judgle for themselves how DISHONESTLY you attempt to use thouse sources.

> How about the UN, Kennykins? For 17 years in a row now, the UN
General Assembly voted overwhelmingly to condemn your beloved embargo.

And yet, Danny, as many times as we have been over this, the UN Gneeral
Assembly not ONCE has used the word "COMDEMN" in their position.

COMRADE C> Poor desperate, Kennykins. I know you think they are just a bunch of
COMRADE C> liars, but even Amnesty International reported:

THEY are not liars, but YOU ARE Comrade!

COMRADE C> "The UN General Assembly has repeatedly CONDEMNED the US embargo as
COMRADEC> contrary to the Charter of the United Nations and international law.

They never used the word "COMDEMN" in their resolutions.

COMRADE C> On 29 October 2008 the UN General Assembly passed a resolution
COMRADE C> reiterating for the 17th time its call on the USA to end its embargo
COMRADE C> against Cuba.

It seems YOU didn't get far in school, Danny. A call to end the embargo is NOT the same thing as a condemnation. Except in the Communist propaganda ministry. On several levels I also call for an end to it. First of all to allow Americans to travel there freely to SEE for themselves what socialism does to a country. You continue to MISREPRESENT the positions of the various human rights bodies and twist statements to your own interpretations. WHEN shall we ever see that SUPER SECRET e-mail from the head of Genocide Watch you CLAIM to have gotten admitting that you wedre right and that they had been LYING for decades? The answer is we will NEVER see it. You NEVER got any such e-mail. You'd haved to invent one, and you and I both know that if you did, the RCMP would lock your pathetic Stalinist ass up so fast the police car would break the sound barrier.



> Just for record, since I can't get a straight answer from PL or his
> friend here, maybe you can give it try. In your opinion, generally
> speaking, are trade sanctions that deprive a nation of vital access to
> medicines, new scientific and medical technology, food, chemical water
> treatment and electricity genocide or not?

The problem with your question, Comrade Christensen, is that it is based
on false premises. Nobody is "DEPRIVING" Cuba of anything.


EXTRELEY DISHONEST SNIP AND LYING Where is the issues I pointred out showing that you are LYING (as usual) Danny?


COMRADE C> Very evasive, Kennykins. What is it with you the three of you?

Want to talk about EVASIVE and fundamentally DISHONEST, Danny? Shall I reply the points that you SNIPPED and RAN away from?

REDO:

1. Depriving Cuba of access to Food.

A. The U.S. actual does not only NOT interfere with Cuba's access to Food, but the U.S. supplies a significant portion of the food Cuba imports. That includes donations to WFP, and I still find amusing that WFP donations that are supposed to be FREE (in a socialist country) that the Cuban people are forced to BUY with their hard earned pesos. Talk about CRUEL?

2. Denying access to new scientific and medical technology.

A: Yet Cuba HAS almost all the latest technology, the vast majority of which is not even manufactured IN the United States in the first place.

3. Denying access to medicines.

A: Not only does the U.S. NOT interfere with Cuba obtaining medicines, the U.S. actually supplies Cuba with a significant portion of the medicines it has, Particularly anti-biotics.

4. Denying access to Cuba water treatment material.

A: the U.S. has NOT interfered with Cuba's access to water treatment materials, or refused to provide Cuba with any water treatment chemicals other than those with "dual use" characteristics.

5. Denying Cuba electricity.

A: Bullshit. The U.S. did NOT cut down the electrical transmission towers from Florida to Cuba. NONE ever existed. Cuba has NO coal burning electric plants. Cuba gets all the OIL it needs from Venezuela and China. It used to get it from the USSR. The claim is ludicrous on its face.


The REAL problem you have, Danny, is that the U.S. refuses to "GIVE" Cuba these things. Which puts a crimp in Raoul's plane for shiny new Sukhoi fighter jets and he has to stay with the rusting old MiGs that barely can get off the ground. POOR BABY! Oh the indignity of it all. No new jets, no new tanks, no new helicopter gunships. POOR POOR PICKED ON BABIES.

(Group cry for the poor Cuban military.)


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