Re: Searching Without Success for Detergent in Cuba, Where H1NI Has Fertile Ground to Reproduce


"Dan Christensen" <dchris@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:c2f0744e-2d25-4eb5-9d69-61c2aeca1a18@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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> What of their condemnation for the oppression in Cuba of the people by
> the Cuban government? You're pretty selective in your quoting Comrade
> Christensen.

What's your point, Kennykins? That everything AI reports about your
beloved embargo Amnesty International is a lie?

I agree with their disapproval of the embargo.

COMRADE C> Sorry, Kennykins, I'm just not buying into this bullshit about you
COMRADE C> opposing these cruel sanctions. The rationalizations are just coming
COMRADE C> too fast and furious.

You see, COMRADE, the difference between us is that you WHINE like a baby and see them as "cruel." I see them as counter productive even if RICHLY DESERVED. Castro's government brought the embargo on themselves.I'd lift the embargo and sell them everythign they want to buy at a good capitalist 300% mark-up. Cash on the barrelhead.

Can you claim the same about their condemnation of the police state in Cuba?

COMRADE C> No. Do I have to be a Catholic to cite statements made by the Catholic
COMRADEC> Church? Of course not. Likewise, I do not have to accept everything
COMRADE C> published by AI to cite reports from them that I believe to be true.

So in essence, you cherry-pick what things from the sources you hold ujp as gospel and the rest is bullshit, is that about it, Danny? So if 75% of what AI says about Cuba is utter bullshit, what about the remaining 25% that YOU cite isn't also bullshit?

>> “The RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED BY THE EMBARGO help to deprive Cuba
> of vital
> > access to medicines, new scientific and medical technology,
> food,
> > chemical water treatment and electricity.
> Cuba can have all the medicine they want from over 150 countries.

> Does this somehow prove AI is lying when they say, "The
RESTRICTIONS
> IMPOSED BY THE EMBARGO help to deprive Cuba of vital access to
> medicines, new scientific and medical technology, food, chemical
water
> treatment and electricity?" Does it prove the UN, OAS and the
Catholic
> Church are a bunch of liars, too?

Since AI is not allowed into Cuba, it isn't that they are lying, they
just lack information.

COMRADE C> They publish numerous reports on Cuba every year, Kennykins. Check out
COMRADE C> their website. Are they just making it all up because "they just lack
COMRADE C> information?"

And yet YOU rant that 75% of that material is utter bullshit. Only the parft YOU quote is reliable. Nice try at having things both ways, Comrade Christensen.

COMRADE C> How about the UN, Kennykins? For 17 years in a row now, the UN General
COMRADE C> Assembly voted overwhelmingly to condemn your beloved embargo.

And yet, Danny, as many times as we have been over this, the UN Gneeral Assembly not ONCE has used the word "COMDEMN" in their position. Only YOU use that word. THat and the rest of the COMMUNIST PARTY propaganda arm.

COMRADE C> Just for record, since I can't get a straight answer from PL or his
COMRADE C> friend here, maybe you can give it try. In your opinion, generally
COMRADE C> speaking, are trade sanctions that deprive a nation of vital access to
COMRADE C> medicines, new scientific and medical technology, food, chemical water
COMRADE C> treatment and electricity genocide or not?

The problem with your question, Comrade Christensen, is that it is based on false premises. Nobody is "DEPRIVING" Cuba of anything. Let's go down YOUR list, Danny, shall we?

1. Depriving Cuba of medicines.

Cuba trades with over 150 nations and obtains all the medicine it orders. It is denied NOTHING.

TRUTH: The real core complaint when the bullshit bark is stripped from this tree is that the U.S. refuses to GIVE the medicines to Cuba FOR FREE!

2. Depriving Cuba of new scientific and medical technology.

Again Cuba trades with over 150 other nations. You seem to want it both ways, Comrade. Cuba HAS most of the very latest medical technology it gets from Europe. You constant BOAST that Cuba has the lowest infant mortality rate in the world and is in the top 5 nations for life expectancy. Which is it, Danny?

3. Depriving Cuba of Food.

American is Cuba's LARGEST supplier of food. The claim FAILS for want of the truth.

4. Depriving Cuba of Chemical water treatment.

Again - Cuba actively trades with over 150 nations, many of which supply even the United States with such chemicals and equipment. NONSENSE!

5. Depriving Cuba of electricity?

How does that work, exactly, Comrade? Did the US cut the electrical transmission supply from Florida to Havana?? Just plain hogwash.

Does it represent Genocide? <cough> Of course it doesn't! Your claim is bullshit. AI's claim is political bullshit.








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