Re: Castro's daughter: America not to blame for Cuba's woes
- From: PL <pl.nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:02:14 +0200
Dan Christensen wrote:
On Oct 7, 1:14 pm, PL <pl.nos...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[snipping portions of PL's posting already debunked here, or just to
lame to bother with]
as usual Dan Christensen snips ALL of the facts in this thread and posts some of his
standard and exposed lies to divert attention.
The text Dan prefers you never saw again:
Castro's daughter: America not to blame for Cuba's woes
Published: Tuesday, October 6, 2009
By ROSE QUINN
rquinn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
CHESTER — Love child turned critic, a daughter of Fidel Castro told a Widener University audience Monday that lifting 50-year embargoes imposed by the United States would do little to help suffering people in Cuba.
"I believe the government is going to control everything as it has always done," Alina Fernandez said of the homeland she fled in 1993 to provide a better life for her own daughter.
Though Cubans are quick to blame America for their plight, she suggested that continuing hardships are more a result of the fall of communist Russia in the early 1990s.
"Cuba became a harder place to live in because they were subsidized by the Russians," she said.
Fernandez was speaking during the question-and-answer portion following her 45-minute, first-person account of life both in and out of Cuba. She diplomatically shifted from controversy when a man in the audience asked her opinion about "a president trying to take control" of banks and car dealerships — an obvious reference to President Obama.
"To think Obama could be a communist," she quipped without missing a beat, drawing loud applause inside the packed Alumni Auditorium.
Fernandez opened her talk by asking for patience with her "Spanglish.' She proceeded to offer snapshots on Cuban society and glimpses of rebel politics. She traced her days as a child who played on the floor with the frequent night visitor — Castro — to fleeing Cuba disguised as a Spanish tourist.
"In my case, everything began with something called revolution ... the Cuban one is the main reason for everything in my personal life story," she said. "I come from a country in which the revolution is endless ... But the Cuban revolution is a legend, that is why we are here."
Fernandez described her mother as "a force of nature ... a toast of Havana," a beautiful, voluptuous blonde who "if she looked at a man, it didn't take long for a man to kneel down before her."
Both her mother and Castro were married to other people when their love affair began. Castro was in jail when a letter to his mistress was instead delivered to his wife.
Castro found himself both "free from prison and free from marriage," Fernandez said.
She described Castro as "enormously charismatic" and a true "political animal," but whose presence would make her mother light up.
"Only grandma called him the devil," she said.
Fernandez released her memoir, Castro's Daughter: An Exile's Memoir of Cuba, in 1998.
Her appearance, cosponsored by Widener's University Center Administration and Multicultural Student Affairs, coincided with Hispanic Heritage Month.
Castro’s daughter: America not to blame for Cuba’s woes - The Delaware County Daily Times : Serving Delaware County, PA(DelcoTimes.com) (6 October 2009)
http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2009/10/06/news/doc4acac09da64b8124568491.txt
(snip)What PL snipped for obvious reasons and refused to address… AGAIN!:What PL snipped and has repeatedly refused to address:That US agricultural expert you quoted the other day from The Herald(snip)
said, "With the end of the embargo, the agricultural market impact on
the continent would be larger that of the Free Trade Treaty.''
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/1258504.html
It seems this guy, Messina, sees your beloved embargo a MAJOR
impediment to the development of agriculture in Cuba.
And then there is Amnesty International's report(snip)
What PL snipped for obvious reasons and refused to address…µ(snip)
addressed and debunked.
In fact addressed and replied to.
You have never addressed the AI's statement (snip)
I exposed your lies about Amnesty's International.
Amnesty's statements and examples of problems are clear.
Amnesty's statement that the US sold 710 million dollars of food to Cuba is also very clear.
The fact that you lied and that Amnesty never referred to the trade sanctions as "genocide" is also very clear?
(snip)which you are also misquoting.A blatant lie. These are direct quotes exposing your bloodthirsty political agenda, Mr. Lobbyist. Read it and weep: http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR25/007/2009/en/540b61a6-d0ec-493b-84c4-372a0b3c5067/amr250072009en.html
Nope.
fact.
you claim they said the trade sanctions are "genocide".
they never did and never will.
Already debunked here.(snip)
Nope.
fact.
you can't quote them.
the only one that is "on the hook" for genocide and crimes againstDidn't Amnesty International confirm that the US sold 710 million[snip]
dollars of food to Cuba last year.
Sorry, Mr. Lobbyist, but in no way does this get you and your
political masters
off the hook for these crimes against humanity (snip)
humanity (refusing food aid for the Cuban people) is your favorite
dictator Fidel Castro.
He was indicted various times in Europe and only escaped as he was a
leader of a country.
[snip]
That is you political spin on it.(snip)
Nope.
fact.
See:
http://www.cubaverdad.net/genocide.htm
But do send Fidel to Spain or Belgium.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/msearch?query=Belgium+Castro+genocide&submit=Search&charset=UTF-8
(snip)PL would actually have you believe the Messina claims that the UShe never said so.
embargo is NOT a major impediment to the development of Cuban
agriculture, even though he said, "With the end of the embargo, the agricultural market impact on the continent would be larger that of the Free Trade Treaty.'' (snip)
the only "impediment" he mentions is the "regulation".
See what I mean, folks?
They see you snipped the context again.
he full article from which Dan abuses the snippet to mislead people.
The article again:
Posted on Tuesday, 09.29.09
Cuba's agriculture shows promise, expert says
BY RUI FERREIRA
El Nuevo Herald
Cuban agriculture has such a big potential that if it were to be totally developed it could surpass the volume of production of the Free Trade Treaty, an expert said Tuesday.
William A. Messina Jr., of the University of Florida's Agriculture Science Institute, said that the communist island ``has such good soil and it represents a challenge of such magnitude that, with the end of the embargo, the agricultural market impact on the continent would be larger that of the Free Trade Treaty.''
``The Cuban climate is very good, has good resources, and an agricultural system with potential,'' Messina said. ``But the truth is that we don't see big trends toward its development in terms of regulation.''
The UF expert mentioned the fact that last year the hurricane season inflicted huge harm on Cuban agriculture after the island was hit by two hurricanes and a tropical storm. Cuba's losses amounted to $10 billion and it lost all of its crops for the year.
The tragedy coincided with a decrease in food imports, said John Kavulich, president of Cuba-U.S. Economic and Trade Council.
``Food and agricultural exports went down approximately 20 percent so far this year due to the consistent lack of foreign currency in Cuba,'' Kavulich said. ``They have always opted to use that type of currency to buy food.''
Messina and Kavulich came to Miami to take part in the annual conference of the Americas, hosted by The Miami Herald and El Nuevo Herald. With them was Carlo Dade, director of the Canadian Foundation for the Americas, who will travel to Havana next week at a time in which the trade links of his country with the communist island have suffered a significant contraction.
``At this time we see Cuba's future in terms of new opportunities,'' Dade said. ``We must continue to explore possibilities in economic terms, since many of our joint projects have nearly disappeared.''
In his opinion, since the '90s, Canadian investments in Cuba diversified in the areas of oil and mineral extractions, but now they are decreasing due to the fall in prices in the case of minerals, and the lack of Cuban investments in the case of oil.
``Our businesses have had a presence, but I can't say it's significant at this time,'' Dade said.
According to the expert, when agricultural imports opened in Cuba, the United States had an advantage over Canada.
``Canada is a good exporter of agricultural products, but when the United States began to sell to Cuba, our business with Cuba changed. Our entrepreneurs turned to other Latin American countries such as Peru and Ecuador. ''
Cuba's agriculture shows promise, expert says - Americas - MiamiHerald.com (29 September 2009)
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/story/1258504.html
(snip)It are the rules of law that regulate property and economical activity[snip]"mere regulatory change"?``The Cuban climate is very good, has good resources, and anHere, Messina is calling for mere regulatory change (snip)
agricultural system with potential,'' Messina said. ``But the truth is
that we don't see big trends toward its development in terms of
regulation.''
Yes. Not even legislative change. (snip)
in Cuba.
So "regulatory change" means legal change Mr. serial Liar.
[snip]
He spoke of regulatory, not legislative change, you idiot!
and the "regulatory system" in Cuba is indeed enshrined in the laws.
What else would he mean?
Local zoning ordinances?
What a joke you are.
You must really think that people here are stupid.
Well I have news for you: they aren't.
What desperate Dan snipped as it exposes his lies:
A change in the way agriculture is run as recommended by other authors on the topic.
An end to the communist collectivization and more free initiative and investment.
that is what all authors agree on is needed for an increase in production.
Cuban "regulation" of the agriculture resulted in 50% of the land being unused, 67% of the land being in the hands of state farms that have 4 times less output than private farms and private farmers left without freedom to operate, without the means to invest and expand due to excessive control.
In fact: it touches on the heart of the matter: the reason why Cuba needs to import 80% of the food it consumes and why the author says a change in regulation is needed.
Your insults won't change that fact.
See:
The Land Is There, the Cubans Are There, but the Incentives Are Not |
Cato @ Liberty (28 September 2009)
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/09/28/the-land-is-there-the-cubans-are-there-but-the-incentives-are-not/
Bloqueo a la producción - Artículos - Cuba - cubaencuentro.com (4 September 2009)
http://www.cubaencuentro.com/es/cuba/articulos/bloqueo-a-la-produccion-207649
Cuba admits failure to pay farmers on time – World AP – MiamiHerald.com
(28 September 2009)
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/world/AP/story/1256270.html
Tags: Agriculture, Economy, Finance, Food, System
http://www.cubaverdad.net/weblog/cuba-admits-failure-to-pay-farmers-on-time/
Cuba Pins Hopes on New For-Profit Farms – washingtonpost.com (28
September 2009)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/27/AR2009092703316.html
Tags: Agriculture, Economy, Food
http://www.cubaverdad.net/weblog/cuba-pins-hopes-on-new-farms-run-for-profit/
Seeds of change in Cuban farming
By Michael Voss
BBC News, Camaguey
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/americas/8280441.stm
Published: 2009/09/30 12:21:16 GMT
(snip)What PL snipped for all too obvious reasons:"genocide": one of Dan Christensen's favorite lies. In the past he has[snip]
falsely claimed that Amnesty International, the Catholic Church, ... all
agree with him that the trade sanctions would be "genocide".
They all agree that, as Amnesty International's reported (snip)
They all agree that, as Amnesty International's reported last month,
What the cowardly PL snipped AGAIN for all to obvious reasons:
What PL snipped for all too obvious reasons:
They all agree that, (snip)
they all agree that the trade sanctions are not "genocide".
But please feel free to post something here where they say differently.
we both know you can't.
What a jole you are.
replied to and debunked.
You mean you snipped and ignored(snip
Nope.
Replied to and debunked as anyone that has followed the various threads can see.
(snip)Prove me wrong and post a quote.they all agree that the trade sanctions are not "genocide" in any wayA blatant lie. (snip)
You made the claim;
Nope.
you made the claim they support you lies.
I challenged you for about 10 years to post just one quote and you failed.
I said:
No reputable organization has ever referred to the trade sanctions as "genocide" as you have shown over and over again by your embarrassing inability to post even one quote from a reputable international organization referring to the trade sanctions as "genocide".
we both know you will never prove me wrong.
What dan Christensen snipped:
Dan Christensen's exposed lie about Genocide Watch.
Dan falsely claimed the organization had copied (mindlessly) a number
from a book by Rummel. Another case of false claims of "private
information".
Upon verification it became clear that Rummel quoted a figure of 73,000
deaths attributable to the Castro regime. Genocide Watch showed a figure
of 75,000 which comrade Dan promptly attributed to "sloppiness" in copying.
Dan Christensen fails to understand that his private lies can't refute
the public record.
He tried this one on a couple of times and always failed.
Do you deny Dan Christensen that you got the numbers wrong in your lie
and that the "exclusive" source you falsely claimed was used by Genocide
Watch (another "private" message) actually gave a LOWER figure than
Genocide Watch?
I have clearly shown that your claim that Mr. Rummel is the one and only
source Genocide Watch uses is false by proving that Mr. Rummel (whose
credibility you attack without proof) gives a different figure than
Genocide Watch (73,000 versus 75,0000). Genocide Watch correctly lists
Castro as a genocidal dictator because of his responsibility for the
death of thousands of people.
When confronted with your lie you turned insult in to injury by claiming
the "made an error in copying", didn't you?
As always: the links that expose Dan Christensen's lies:
Dan's lie:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/ff0ab4c53757e8a0?dmode=source&hl=en
My exposure of his lie:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/a44230458e76b3c7?dmode=source&hl=en
Dan's pathetic claim Genocide Watch made a mistake:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/8eeb4ad61f1463d4?dmode=source&hl=en
Genocide Watch
Mission
Genocide Watch exists to predict, prevent, stop, and punish genocide and
other forms of mass murder. We seek to raise awareness and influence
public policy concerning potential and actual genocide. Our purpose is
to build an international movement to prevent and stop genocide.
Vision
We address genocide as it is defined in the Genocide Convention: "the
intentional destruction, in whole or in part, of a national, ethnic,
racial or religious group, as such." We also address political mass
murder, ethnic cleansing, and other genocide-like crimes.
Genocide Watch is the Coordinating organization of The International
Campaign to End Genocide (ICEG), an international coalition of
organizations. The ICEG aims to educate the general public and policy
makers about the causes, processes, and warning signs of genocide; to
create the institutions and political will to prevent and stop genocide;
and to bring perpetrators of genocide to justice.
Objectives
Education
We work to raise consciousness of genocide as a global problem and to
raise awareness of specific high-risk situations.
Prediction
Genocide Watch uses predictive models such as Dr. Gregory Stanton's "The
Eight Stages of Genocide" to analyze high risk situations for the
purpose of education, policy analysis and advocacy. We monitor high risk
areas, declare Genocide Watches, Warnings, and Emergencies, and
recommend options for governments, international organizations, and
non-governmental organizations to prevent genocide. We support creation
of a Genocide Early Warning Center in the Secretariat of the United Nations.
Prevention
Using the resources of the members of the International Campaign to End
Genocide, and other international organizations with on-the-ground field
staff, Genocide Watch uses our understanding of the genocidal process to
prepare options papers for policy makers, recommending specific actions
to prevent genocide in high-risk areas.
Intervention
Once genocidal massacres have begun, intervention may be necessary to
halt genocide. Genocide Watch coordinates work by the ICEG to promote
rapid response by the U.N., regional and authorized national forces,
including effective mandates and funding, and the political will to
intervene. We support creation of a standing U.N. Rapid Response Force
under Articles 43 – 47 of the U.N. Charter.
Justice
In order to seek justice for victims and survivors, punish perpetrators,
deter future genocides, and facilitate the transition from divided
societies to peaceful coexistence, we support national justice systems,
special national and international tribunals, The International Criminal
Court, and truth and reconciliation commissions.
Genocide Watch
http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutus/missionstatement.html
THE STANDARD REPLY TO DAN'S LIES AND PERSONAL INSULTS.
again Dan Christensen shows what a hypocrite liar he is.
He is the one doing the "attacking" with his lies and slander.
As all can see I only post this piece that exposes his lies when he
has started his slanderous attacks.
That by the way is in general within a couple of exchanges on the
facts of the case involved as by then he is so stuck that he has to
resort to lies and insults.
Please note that lies combined with personal attacks only destroy
your credibility, Dan.
Dan Christensen knows I am not a lobbyist and that it is all just a
slander campaign.
As a good follower of Goebbels he keeps repeating his lies in the hope
that something will stick and that he maybe can mislead some people
that
don't know what he is all about.
Desperate Dan Is doing his bit in the slander campaign of the "rat
pack"
he is associated with. The contribution of his pals at the Centre
Ernesto Che Guevara in this group recently just shows what Dan and his
cronies are all about: lies, insults, slander and intimidation.
Actually: given your actions in the past Dan you fit the lobbyist
profile a lot closer.
You contact people in support of the Cuban regime and with the aim to
have them change the content of their website or change public
statements. You even pose as a "journalist" or "researcher" while
doing so.
The fact that you have been utterly unsuccessful at it and that only
your website suffered the removal of pages just shows what a bad
lobbyist you are.
Your Club Med, lobbying, CIA lies are exposed again
Links to the threads Dan produces his "lobbyist" misquotes from and
the exposure of his lies by others:
For those that want to see the full thread and the complete messages
in their context (which Dan Christensen desperately hopes nobody will
as it will expose his lies), here is a link to the threads concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/5fb621a1396ecc6c/2602f5eb5bd1c2ed?hl=3D3Den=3DE0=3DA8=3DAAf5eb5bd1c2ed
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/56e1a7b9ca6c61e3/9cfde811fd6c7414?#9cfde811fd6c7414
To Dan Christensen's great frustration his lies by now have been
exposed by various other people in other threads like:
http://groups.google.be/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/ac34bd501ab58b97?dmode=3D3Dsource
http://groups.google.be/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/848321c82da3bbda
Dan Christensen lied when he claimed I had stated that I had been at
Club Med in Varadero - a hotel he tried to depict as a sleazy sex
resort - to "lobby" people.
Just one example:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/4b7720708da65ee0?dmode=3D3Dsource
Dan Christensen even suggested the whole trip was paid for by the CIA
thereby accusing Belgian officials of not only sexual impropriety, but
also of active corruption.
You see: Dan Christensen just doesn't know when to stop lying and gets
caught up in his "cloak and dagger" childish fantasies.
His lies are so over the top that it all become a big joke that people
can easily see though.
Here is one example of how serial liar Dan Christensen was exposed.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/848321c82da3bbda?dmode=3D3Dsource
The lies of Dan Christensen about me that were exposed:
- his lie about me playing golf to "lobby": exposed. Dan Christensen
had to admit there were no quotes to support any of that.
- his lie about singles resorts and schmoozing: exposed as various
people stated that it is merely a family resort that even had a circus
school for children
- his lie about me being in Varadero: exposed as Dan Christensen had
to admit I never said I was there
- his lie that it were all "CIA junkets" exposed as Dan Christensen
ran like hell when he realized that this lie could expose him to legal
sanctions
- his lie that I had "self-confessed" anything: exposed by people that
put the snippets Dan Christensen abusively posts in context (as shown
in this message)
All Dan Christensen's lies have been exposed by various people.
as I said comrade
Dan: whenever you post your lies about me I post the truth about you.
Your record of lies, innuendo, insults and support of human rights
abuses discredits you.
All shame you brought on yourself by your attitude and actions.
The exposure of the "lobbyist" lie in further detail.
Dan Christensen's abuse of misquotes has been exposed over and over
again. He just aped the lie of another apologist that dropped that
specific lie very quickly. The guy is indeed smarter than stupid Dan.
When Dan Christensen tried to come up with his own "new and
improved" version of the lie he fell flat on his face.
He claimed I had been "lobbying" people In Geneva while his Rat Pack
pal "cuba libre" that stalked me then showed from an IP address from
which I had posted something that I was in Santiago de Cuba at the
time. One Rat Pack member exposing another's lies with the result of
his cyber stalking. Ironic.
Dan's other exposed false claim:
"Taking a little break from arm-twisting in Geneva, Mr. Lobbyist?"
Link:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/b6375f9783e47aee?q=3D3Dg:thl174670614d&dq=3D3D&hl=3D3Den&lr=3D3D&ie=3D3DUTF-8
Again it is clear what a pathetic loser Dan Christensen is.
Below you will find what is behind Dan Christensen's slanderous
campaign: facts he can't deny.
- Frustration
I exposed Dan Christensen as a fraud in this group years ago when I
blew his "cover". In SCC he tried to portray himself as an
"independent
interested party" with no political agenda.
When I came across a blatantly different reply to a similar question
in a Stalinist e-group to which I had been invited I posted it to show
his lying hypocrisy.
Since then he has been pissed as hell as it undermined his lying
propaganda effort to mislead "those in the background" (his own words,
those that didn't have "local knowledge". He himself admitted in the
same e-group that propagandist like him can never "convince" those
with "local knowledge". In frequent exchanges he got some mad he often
forgot to keep up the pretense and made him show his hand and true
nature:
Quote:
"In my opinion the advances made by the Revolution are morally well
worth fighting for and justify the use of these extraordinary
measures. In this case, the ends do indeed justify the means.
...................................................................................................................................................................................................................
These measures, however, would NOT be morally justified in propping
less worthy regimes in the region -- the USA and its vassal states in
the
Caribbean and Latin America come immediately to mind."
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3D3Den&lr=3D3D&ie=3D3DUTF-8&selm=3D3DtirG3.176162%245r2.278940%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca
"It is wrong to think that a particular end justifies EVERY means. At
this time, for example, it would be wrong of the Cuban government to
send death squads after their opponents as happens in Mexico and
Colombia. Again, the actions of the Cuban government in detaining
these so-called dissidents seem quite mild in comparison and are
morally justified under the circumstances."
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3D3Den&lr=3D3D&ie=3D3DUTF-8&selm=3D3DtxMG3.176443%245r2.284921%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca
That meant he was exposed a the hypocrite liar he is. It showed that
the false claims he made about others (support of genocide, torture,
abuses, ..) in fact only applied to him.
I have also frequently exposed his lies about facts and people in SCC.
Dan Christensen once claimed:
"It is clear from Smith's article here (and his website, CIP Online)
that he does, in fact, support an immediate and unconditional lifting
of your beloved embargo."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/3f1fe3a55c12d7d7?dmode=3D3Dsource&hl=3D3Den
Mr. Smith's own words:
'We should reduce tensions, not aggravate it, making it clear to the
Cuban government that we do not have hostile intentions toward them,''
Smith
said during a 40-minute speech at a conference titled Cuba and the
United States: Relations in Permanent Conflict, Causes, Effects and
Solutions.
''I did not say lift the embargo without conditions,'' he said.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/cuba/12157593.htm
You can enter after a free registration.
Permanent copy in the Cubaverdad archive:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/16823
Then there is the issue of his lying website: acting with a third
person I had pages removed (for violations of law, slander, ...), I
have shamed him in to changing it on
various occasions (adding links that would then expose his lies,
remove lying caption from pictures, ...) and I have in general exposed
the lies on it (on Amnesty International for example)
What Dan claimed on his website (the misquote):
"Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly
denounced the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear
its support for the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel
sanctions"
http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ215.html
Link to the "report": (the one Dan didn't give until I shamed him in
to it)
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=3D3DENG-CUB
where the only thing Amnesty international asks for "immediately and
unconditionally" is the release of political prisoners.
Quote:
"in 1.
"On the basis of the available information, therefore, Amnesty
International considers the 75 dissidents to be prisoners of
conscience
(2) and calls for their immediate and unconditional release."
In 8.1
" to immediately and unconditionally release the 15 prisoners
previously named by Amnesty International as prisoners of conscience.
" to immediately and unconditionally release anyone else who is
detained or imprisoned solely for having peacefully exercised their
rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly."
end of quote
- Dogmatic hatred.
Dan Christensen is a hard-line Stalinist. His first steps in SCC were
to defend Stalin and in other forums he has praised "workers
democracy" under Stalin.
He has admitted that he is ready to fight to the last Cuban (from his
comfortable armchair in Canada) for his cause.
By posting the reports from the international press, human rights
organizations and Cuban independent journalists I have exposed his
propaganda as a lie. That makes the man wild with rage.
As he like to see himself as the "victim" (he once claimed he was
being censored in SCC) he therefore lashes out at people claiming that
those that contradict him are "CIA" agents (as if the CIA would care
about a third rate liar as Dan) and professional "lobbyists" probably
to make himself feel that he is "important" and to explain away his
complete propaganda failure (portraying himself as "overcome by
unsurmountable institutional odds").
- Personal hate and the "rat pack"
Dan has suffered the trauma of having part of his website remove
after a long battle over the personal attacks and falsifications he
had posted there.
The frequent exposures of his lies and hypocrisy only fueled the
personal hatred.
Dan ganged up with various other propagandists that people that have
been attacked by them refer to as the "rat pack". I have been the
target of the lies and slanderous insults of this "rat pack".
They specialize in online slander (from posting private information,
attacking their business or businesses they are associated with,
inciting others to harass people, over accusing people of being "CIA
agents" or "lobbyists" to the worst things one can imagine) and direct
harassment (phone calls, letters, letters with razor blade or white
powder, loitering in front of people's houses,.. up to death threats
in France).
All they succeeded in doing was to dramatically increase traffic to a
website I participate in ( www.cubaverdad.net ) and to suffer the
consequences of their slander.
Dan Christensen had part of his website removed. The Centre Che in
France had their complete website removed and their "secretary" known
here as "cubalibre" real name François Valy was sentenced to 6 months
in
jail for a whole series of abuses (including racism). A Spanish
"subsidiary" of the rat pack still has a surprise coming.
All because of their lies were exposed.
But then in the end this is what it boils down to: those that don't
have rational arguments find themselves exposed as the liars they are.
When that happens all they have left are the old
slander tactics: they attack the people that expose their lies in the
hope that they can intimidate them.
If Dan Christensen felt he had any chance to convince people directly
he would try to do so by posting facts and arguing facts.
He is reduced to snipping, posting the same snippets over and over
again, lies and slander.
As long as he and the rest of the "rat pack" (and their hangers on)
are reduced to that they expose" their own failure as Dan Christensen
does here every time.
Fine by me.
PL
"The Cuban government is based on lies and cheap propaganda. That is
why it is afraid of words and the truth."
Raul Rivero, April 2006, University of Sevilla
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