Re: Another lie of Dan Christensen exposed
- From: PL <pl.nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:02:43 +0200
Dan Christensen wrote:
That quota thing again,(snip)
Nope.
That making a fool of you thing" again.
Thanks for again showing you don't even dare to try to refute the facts.
Serial liar dan Christensen claims: 1/3 i.e. 33%
From published data:
Never below 42%.
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/FE483
In the mean time Cuba's agriculture has declined and exports have risen again;
The latest data:
From the WFP:
In Cuba, which imports 80 percent of its food, iron-deficiency anaemia is the commonest nutritional disorder: recent studies by the Institute of Nutrition and Food Hygiene show that anaemia prevalence in the eastern region is 56.7 percent among children under 2 and 20.1 percent in children aged 2–5.
Support for the National Plan on Prevention and Control of Anaemia in the Five Eastern Provinces of Cuba | WFP | United Nations World Food Programme - Fighting Hunger Worldwide
http://www.wfp.org/content/support-national-plan-prevention-and-control-anaemia-five-eastern-provinces-cuba
Agri-Food
Past, Present & Future Report
Cuba
March 2009
Although Cuba's agriculture sector has traditionally been vital to the
economy with such notable products as sugar, tobacco, citrus products,
and tropical fruits, it now imports approximately 80-85% of its
foodstuff requirements. In 1960, roughly 87% of Cuba's rural population
was engaged in agriculture production, and while about 66% of the
population is still engaged in agriculture, the sector lacks the
technology and investment needed to significantly modernize production.
Between the years 2000 and 2006 Cuba's agricultural imports almost
doubled. An estimated 15% of Cuba's total imports are agricultural.
http://www.ats.agr.gc.ca/latin/4678-eng.htm
Havana bling
Rory Carroll
12 April 2008 06:00
The most important change is in agriculture, in which mismanagement
has shrivelled cash crops such as sugar, tobacco and coffee and forced
the lush island to import 80% of its food. Now decision-making has
been decentralised and some restrictions lifted to give farmers more
incentive to produce.
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2008-04-11-havana-bling
Cuba imports approximately 80 percent of the food consumed by its 11.2
million inhabitants and had planned to spend $2 billion this year even
before the devastation wrought by Gustav and Ike.
http://havanajournal.com/business/entry/food-shortages-starting-in-cuba-is-=
the-system-freezing-up/
The island imports 80% of its food, at a cost of $2.5 billion, and its
huge trade deficit has soared this year by 70% to more than $11
billion, according to official figures out this week. That is only
partly covered by the $7.8 billion Cuba receives for "export services"=97
doctors and sports trainers sent to Venezuela in exchange for oil.
http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=3D12851246
Although Cuba already imports 80 percent of the food that it's 11.2
million residents consume, analysts say the impact of the hurricanes
pushes the island into a crisis during a time of high food prices in
international markets.
http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=3Dc87faaa=
b5329d7d51fedc165d5b9ad2d
Cuba imports 80 percent of the food consumed by its 11.2-million
inhabitants, making it highly vulnerable to the commodity price shocks
and foreign currency swings in recent months. Cuba's imports this year
are estimated at $2.5-billion, up 56 percent from last year.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/world/article946886.ece
But overall Cuba is still reliant today on imports for 80% of its
total food consumption, and thus extremely vulnerable to world food
price fluctuations.
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2008/763/39410
IMPORTA 80% DE NECESIDADES
Sector productivo cubano, muerto
En 1958, Cuba producia casi el 80% de los alimentos que consumÃa y era
el principal proveedor de hortalizas de EE.UU. Hoy es al reves: la isla
importa mas del 80% de la cesta básica y la mayor parte de los alimentos viene del "imperio", su quinto socio comercial, a pesar del embargo decretado en 1962. Actualmente, mas del 50% de las tierras cultivables estan ociosas.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/42389
To save communism, Raúl experiments with consumerism
Minor economic reforms by Castro's brother risk exposing inequality and encouraging the desire for change
Rory Carroll in Havana
The Guardian, Monday 7 April 2008
"The most important change so far is in agriculture, in which mismanagement has shrivelled cash crops such as sugar, tobacco and coffee and forced the lush island to import 80% of its food. Now decision-making has been decentralised and some restrictions lifted to give farmers more incentive to produce."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/07/cuba?gusrc=rss&feed=worldnews
Waiting for Obama | The Economist
This will be exacerbated by pressures from high food import prices (Cuba imports around 80% of its food needs), falling nickel prices (a main source of foreign exchange) and the hurricane-related losses. The country's already huge trade deficit soared in 2008 by 70%, to an estimated US$11bn.
http://www.economist.com/world/americas/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12882233
Cuba News
Cuba imports around 80% of its food products and Raúl Castro recently implemented reforms in the farming sector in an attempt to stimulate domestic production. Cuba will have to import more food or face shortages.
http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/research-units/cuba/news/cubanews.cfm
Cubasource (20 May 2009)
Cuba imports more than 80 percent of the food it consumes (EFE, 3/11/08).
http://www.cubasource.org/publications/chronicles/coc200811ec_e.asp
Note that Dan Christensen wants you to believe that he (no facts at all) and his propaganda should be believed over the reports of:
- the WFP, a specialized international agency with a local office.
http://www.wfp.org/content/support-national-plan-prevention-and-control-anaemia-five-eastern-provinces-cuba
- the Economist (a respected UK publication with an research department called "the intelligence unit" that prepares a report on Cuba each year)
http://www.eiu.com/index.asp?rf=0
- The Canadian government
http://www.ats.agr.gc.ca/latin/4678-eng.htm
- the Guardian (a left of center newspaper in the UK)
and Greenleft, ....
How pompous is this Stalinist apologist Dan Christensen that he dreams that he can convince anyone of his propaganda is beyond me.
he must have an utter disdain for people's intelligence.
Just a hint why Cuba needs to import food, Dan: the little production it has is either exported or goes to waste: 10 to 15%
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/FE483
CUBA-AGRICULTURA
Los agricultores cubanos pierden toneladas de tomates por falta de envases
31/05/2009 - 23:13
- Noticias EFE
La Habana, 31 may (EFE).- Cuba perdió cientos de toneladas de una extraordinaria cosecha de tomate de alto rendimiento por no tener suficientes envases, por problemas de transporte y por una industria procesadora tecnológicamente atrasada y de capacidad limitada, informaron hoy medios oficiales.
Los últimos números del semanario "Bohemia" y el periódico "Juventud Rebelde", ambos oficiales, han publicado artículos que refieren las pérdidas ocasionadas por el retraso en trasladar a los comercios "el tomatazo", como han denominado la elevada producción registrada este año.
La noticia se suma a decenas de malos datos sobre la economía de la isla que han publicado medios oficiales en las últimas semanas, incluidas la caída de las exportaciones -cuadruplicadas por las importaciones-, la necesidad de racionar energía y la falta de liquidez del Estado cubano.
El productor Ignacio de Loyola dijo que "300 quintales de tomates (unas 14 toneladas) previstos para consumir fresco, pero al borde de la pudrición, se mandaron para la industria, al no disponer de suficientes envases".
"Por eso perdimos cerca del 40 por ciento de las ganancias previstas, porque el precio del destinado para la industria es inferior", añadió.
"Bohemia" indica en un artículo titulado "Los eslabones débiles de la cadena" que el transporte de Cuba, el único Estado comunista de América, "sigue demorando la recogida y traslado de las cosechas".
Según un ejecutivo de la comercializadora estatal Acopio, Herminio Ravelo, el problema con los envases (cajas) se debe a retrasos en el suministro de madera, porque los aserraderos dieron prioridad a la recuperación del medio millón de viviendas afectadas por los huracanes que azotaron la isla en 2008.
"Juventud Rebelde" señala que por la falta de transporte y de una infraestructura industrial capaz de asumir "picos" productivos, "en los andenes de varios establecimientos del país se pudrieron cientos de toneladas de tomate".
El presidente de una cooperativa de producción, Orlando Gómez, declaró que pudo haber conservas para todo el año, tanto de tomate como de hortalizas como la zanahoria, pero que "no hay un respaldo tampoco con pequeñas industrias" para procesar altos volúmenes.
Agregan los medios oficiales que la industria de procesamiento de productos agrícolas "está tecnológicamente atrasada" y que "se quedó detenida" en el año 2000, cuando se hundió la agricultura de la isla.
El director de Agroindustria de la Unión de Conservas del ministerio de Industria Alimenticia, Jacinto Rodríguez, coincidió en que la falta de envases "limita tanto como la tecnología instalada", y subrayó que deben "rescatarse" las capacidades mediante el cambio de algunos equipamientos.
Subrayó que la industria procesó 110.000 toneladas de tomate, pese a que su viejo andamiaje tecnológico está preparado para admitir sólo 47.600.
Los agricultores cubanos pierden toneladas de tomates por falta de envases | Noticias de Empresa (1 June 2009)
http://www.finanzas.com/noticias/empresas/2009-05-31/171317_agricultores-cubanos-pierden-toneladas-tomates.html
another "achievement" of the "revolution".
The standard text to expose Dan slanderous lies and insults:
Dan Christensen knows I am not a lobbyist and that it is all just a slander campaign.
As a good follower of Goebbels he keeps repeating his lies in the hope that something will stick and that he maybe can mislead some people that don't know what he is all about.
Desperate Dan Is doing his bit in the slander campaign of the "rat pack" he is associated with. The contribution of his pals at the Centre Ernesto Che Guevara in this group recently just shows what Dan and his cronies are all about: lies, insults, slander and intimidation.
Actually: given your actions in the past Dan you fit the lobbyist profile a lot closer.
You contact people in support of the Cuban regime and with the aim to have them change the content of their website or change public statements. You even pose as a "journalist" or "researcher" while doing so.
The fact that you have been utterly unsuccessful at it and that only your website suffered the removal of pages just shows what a bad lobbyist you are.
Your Club Med, lobbying, CIA lies are exposed again
Links to the threads Dan produces his "lobbyist" misquotes from and
the exposure of his lies by others:
For those that want to see the full thread and the complete messages
in their context (which Dan Christensen desperately hopes nobody will
as it will expose his lies), here is a link to the threads concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/5fb621a1396ecc6c/2602f5eb5bd1c2ed?hl=3D3Den=3DE0=3DA8=3DAAf5eb5bd1c2ed
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/56e1a7b9ca6c61e3/9cfde811fd6c7414?#9cfde811fd6c7414
To Dan Christensen's great frustration his lies by now have been
exposed by various other people in other threads like:
http://groups.google.be/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/ac34bd501ab58b97?dmode=3D3Dsource
http://groups.google.be/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/848321c82da3bbda
Dan Christensen lied when he claimed I had stated that I had been at
Club Med in Varadero - a hotel he tried to depict as a sleezy sex
resort - to "lobby" people.
Just one example:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/4b7720708da65ee0?dmode=3D3Dsource
Dan Christensen even suggested the whole trip was paid for by the CIA
thereby accusing Belgian officials of not only sexual impropriety, but
also of active corruption.
You see: Dan Christensen just doesn't know when to stop lying and gets
caught up in his "cloak and dagger" childish fantasies.
His lies are so over the top that it all become a big joke that people
can easily see though.
Here is one example of how serial liar Dan Christensen was exposed.
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/848321c82da3bbda?dmode=3D3Dsource
The lies of Dan Christensen about me that were exposed:
- his lie about me playing golf to "lobby": exposed. Dan Christensen
had to admit there were no quotes to support any of that.
- his lie about singles resorts and schmoozing: exposed as various
people stated that it is merely a family resort that even had a circus
school for children
- his lie about me being in Varadero: exposed as Dan Christensen had
to admit I never said I was there
- his lie that it were all "CIA junkets" exposed as Dan Christensen
ran like hell when he realized that this lie could expose him to legal
sanctions
- his lie that I had "self-confessed" anything: exposed by people that
put the snippets Dan Christensen abusively posts in context (as shown
in this message)
All Dan Christensen's lies have been exposed by various people.
as I said comrade
Dan: whenever you post your lies about me I post the truth about you.
Your record of lies, innuendo, insults and support of human rights
abuses discredits you.
All shame you brought on yourself by your attitude and actions.
The exposure of the "lobbyist" lie in further detail.
Dan Christensen's abuse of misquotes has been exposed over and over
again. He just aped the lie of another apologist that dropped that
specific lie very quickly. The guy is indeed smarter than stupid Dan.
When Dan Christensen tried to come up with his own "new and
improved" version of the lie he fell flat on his face.
He claimed I had been "lobbying" people In Geneva while his Rat Pack
pal "cuba libre" that stalked me then showed from an IP address from
which I had posted something that I was in Santiago de Cuba at the
time. One Rat Pack member exposing another's lies with the result of
his cyber stalking. Ironic.
Dan's other exposed false claim:
"Taking a little break from arm-twisting in Geneva, Mr. Lobbyist?"
Link:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/b6375f9783e47aee?q=3D3Dg:thl174670614d&dq=3D3D&hl=3D3Den&lr=3D3D&ie=3D3DUTF-8
Again it is clear what a pathetic loser Dan Christensen is.
Below you will find what is behind Dan Christensen's slanderous
campaign: facts he can't deny.
- Frustration
I exposed Dan Christensen as a fraud in this group years ago when I
blew his "cover". In SCC he tried to portray himself as an
"independent
interested party" with no political agenda.
When I came across a blatantly different reply to a similar question
in a Stalinist e-group to which I had been invited I posted it to show
his lying hypocrisy.
Since then he has been pissed as hell as it undermined his lying
propaganda effort to mislead "those in the background" (his own words,
those that didn't have "local knowledge". He himself admitted in the
same e-group that propagandist like him can never "convince" those
with "local knowledge". In frequent exchanges he got some mad he often
forgot to keep up the pretense and made him show his hand and true
nature:
Quote:
"In my opinion the advances made by the Revolution are morally well
worth fighting for and justify the use of these extraordinary
measures. In this case, the ends do indeed justify the means.
.............................................................................................
These measures, however, would NOT be morally justified in propping
less worthy regimes in the region -- the USA and its vassal states in
the
Caribbean and Latin America come immediately to mind."
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3D3Den&lr=3D3D&ie=3D3DUTF-8&selm=3D3DtirG3.176162%245r2.278940%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca
"It is wrong to think that a particular end justifies EVERY means. At
this time, for example, it would be wrong of the Cuban government to
send death squads after their opponents as happens in Mexico and
Colombia. Again, the actions of the Cuban government in detaining
these so-called dissidents seem quite mild in comparison and are
morally justified under the circumstances."
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3D3Den&lr=3D3D&ie=3D3DUTF-8&selm=3D3DtxMG3.176443%245r2.284921%40tor-nn1.netcom.ca
That meant he was exposed a the hypocrite liar he is. It showed that
the false claims he made about others (support of genocide, torture,
abuses, ..) in fact only applied to him.
I have also frequently exposed his lies about facts and people in SCC.
Dan Christensen once claimed:
"It is clear from Smith's article here (and his website, CIP Online)
that he does, in fact, support an immediate and unconditional lifting
of your beloved embargo."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/3f1fe3a55c12d7d7?dmode=3D3Dsource&hl=3D3Den
Mr. Smith's own words:
'We should reduce tensions, not aggravate it, making it clear to the
Cuban government that we do not have hostile intentions toward them,''
Smith
said during a 40-minute speech at a conference titled Cuba and the
United States: Relations in Permanent Conflict, Causes, Effects and
Solutions.
''I did not say lift the embargo without conditions,'' he said.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/cuba/12157593.htm
You can enter after a free registration.
Permanent copy in the Cubaverdad archive:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/16823
Then there is the issue of his lying website: acting with a third
person I had pages removed (for violations of law, slander, ...), I
have shamed him in to changing it on
various occasions (adding links that would then expose his lies,
remove lying caption from pictures, ...) and I have in general exposed
the lies on it (on Amnesty International for example)
What Dan claimed on his website (the misquote):
"Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly
denounced the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear
its support for the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel
sanctions"
http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ215.html
Link to the "report": (the one Dan didn't give until I shamed him in
to it)
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=3D3DENG-CUB
where the only thing Amnesty international asks for "immediately and
unconditionally" is the release of political prisoners.
Quote:
"in 1.
"On the basis of the available information, therefore, Amnesty
International considers the 75 dissidents to be prisoners of
conscience
(2) and calls for their immediate and unconditional release."
In 8.1
" to immediately and unconditionally release the 15 prisoners
previously named by Amnesty International as prisoners of conscience.
" to immediately and unconditionally release anyone else who is
detained or imprisoned solely for having peacefully exercised their
rights to freedom of expression, association and assembly."
end of quote
- Dogmatic hatred.
Dan Christensen is a hard-line Stalinist. His first steps in SCC were
to defend Stalin and in other forums he has praised "workers
democracy" under Stalin.
He has admitted that he is ready to fight to the last Cuban (from his
comfortable armchair in Canada) for his cause.
By posting the reports from the international press, human rights
organizations and Cuban independent journalists I have exposed his
propaganda as a lie. That makes the man wild with rage.
As he like to see himself as the "victim" (he once claimed he was
being censored in SCC) he therefore lashes out at people claiming that
those that contradict him are "CIA" agents (as if the CIA would care
about a third rate liar as Dan) and professional "lobbyists" probably
to make himself feel that he is "important" and to explain away his
complete propaganda failure (portraying himself as "overcome by
unsurmountable institutional odds").
- Personal hate and the "rat pack"
Dan has suffered the trauma of having part of his website remove
after a long battle over the personal attacks and falsifications he
had posted there.
The frequent exposures of his lies and hypocrisy only fueled the
personal hatred.
Dan ganged up with various other propagandists that people that have
been attacked by them refer to as the "rat pack". I have been the
target of the lies and slanderous insults of this "rat pack".
They specialize in online slander (from posting private information,
attacking their business or businesses they are associated with,
inciting others to harass people, over accusing people of being "CIA
agents" or "lobbyists" to the worst things one can imagine) and direct
harassment (phone calls, letters, letters with razor blade or white
powder, loitering in front of people's houses,.. up to death threats
in France).
All they succeeded in doing was to dramatically increase traffic to a
website I participate in ( www.cubaverdad.net ) and to suffer the
consequences of their slander.
Dan Christensen had part of his website removed. The Centre Che in
France had their complete website removed and their "secretary" known
here as "cubalibre" was sentenced to 6 months in jail for a whole
series of abuses. A Spanish "subsidiary" of the rat pack still has a
surprise coming.
All because of their lies were exposed.
But then in the end this is what it boils down to: those that don't
have rational arguments find themselves exposed as the liars they are.
When that happens all they have left are the old
slander tactics: they attack the people that expose their lies in the
hope that they can intimidate them.
If Dan Christensen felt he had any chance to convince people directly
he would try to do so by posting facts and arguing facts.
He is reduced to snipping, posting the same snippets over and over
again, lies and slander.
As long as he and the rest of the "rat pack" (and their hangers on)
are reduced to that they expose" their own failure as Dan Christensen
does here every time.
Fine by me.
PL
"The Cuban government is based on lies and cheap propaganda. That is
why it is afraid of words and the truth."
Raul Rivero, April 2006, University of Sevilla
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