Re: Question to Dan Christensen

On May 3, 5:04 pm, PL <pl.nos...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[snipping portions of PL's posting already debunked here, or too lame
to bother with]

How do suppose I could possibly exploit your ill health -- if indeed
you were sick.
(snip)
Easy enough Dan: spreading rumors about someone's ability to perform his
job is something that you are very well capable off.
Your "job???" You meaning like lobbying Belgian ministers at Club
Med?
(snip)

Not my job, just your lies as shown below.

Links to the threads Dan produces his "lobbyist" misquotes from and
the exposure of his lies by others:

No lies or misquotes,

(snip)


What Mr. Lobbyist snipped for obvious reasons:

No lies or misquotes, Mr. Lobbyist, just your own words coming back to
haunt you. Again, we are STILL for some other plausible explanation of
your words here:

"I can do a lot more staying here [in Belgium] ... by lobbying the
European parliament, the Belgian government."
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.puerto-rico/msg/ca5e99f8f48...

"I 'lobby' them [members of the Belgium and European Parliaments] in
the sense that I speak to people I know for ages or meet in the
European parliament to inform them on Cuba."
http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/9cfde811fd6c7414?d...

"I can 'lobby' 4 MEP's [Members of the European Parliament] and two
ministers in Belgium [members of cabinet] by going to the confrmation
dinner of my godchild. I can also 'lobby' these MEP's at our squash
games. Check with Club Med in Varadero on which Belgian ministers
stayed there and get back to me."
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/2602f5eb5bd1c2ed?...

Asked to clarify his relations to these "Belgian ministers" staying at
Club Med, you wrote:

"People talk to me before they go to Cuba... I just offer people
[these Belgian ministers, for example] an opportunity to see things
for themselves [at Club Med???]"
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/4925d2f003a9fb82?...

BTW, we are also still waiting for your explanation of how you could
lose your job because some guy on the internet said you have cancer. I
take it, you were just making that up. The only rational reason for
the poster in question to say you have cancer is to make people feel
sorry for you and to perhaps divert attention from poor record in
debates here.


yes, lies and misquotes as shown below

Links to the threads Dan produces his "lobbyist" misquotes from and
the exposure of his lies by others:

For those that want to see the full thread and the complete messages
in their context (which Dan Christensen desperately hopes nobody will
as it will expose his lies), here is a link to the threads concerned.http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/...http://groups.google.ca/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_thread/thread/5...

To Dan Christensen's great frustration his lies by now have been
exposed by various other people in other threads like:http://groups.google.be/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/ac34bd501ab58b97?d...http://groups.google.be/group/soc.culture.cuba/msg/848321c82da3bbda


[snip]

I don't know what you think this proves. (Likewise the rest of your
pathetic posting.) Again it seems you are STILL unable to give any
sort of plausible explanation -- beyond the obvious -- for the above
quotes (which you snipped). Years later, you tried telling us once
that it was all a joke. That fell flat. Then you said you were just
giving these Belgian ministers of yours travel tips about bed-and-
breakfast rooms in Cuba. Get real -- they went to Club Med!!! Care to
try another approach?

What we need is some kind of brief explanation from you. (Don't hold
your breath, folks!) Your blanket denials and links to your previous
postings here just aren't going to cut it. We are STILL waiting...


What Dan claimed on his website (the misquote):
"Today, for the first time, Amnesty International has explicitly
denounced the US embargo on Cuba in humanitarian terms, and made clear
its support for the immediate and unconditional lifting of these cruel
sanctions"http://members.allstream.net/~dchris/CubaFAQ215.html

Link to the "report": (the one Dan didn't give until I shamed him in
to it)http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR250172003?open&of=3D3DENG-CUB


From this report:

"Amnesty International calls for the lifting of sanctions where it
believes the continuation of sanctions might contribute to grave human
rights abuses. A review of the impact of the US embargo against Cuba
and other related policies in this regard is deeply worrying.

"The overwhelming evaluation of the relevant UN agencies is that the
US embargo against Cuba is highly detrimental to Cubans' enjoyment of
a range of economic, social and cultural rights. Moreover, much of
their analysis indicates that the negative effects of the embargo are
felt disproportionately, not by the decision-makers and authorities
whose policies the embargo is aimed at influencing, but by the weakest
and most vulnerable members of the population."

And if that was too subtle for you, Mr. Lobbyist, AI subsequently
reiterated their condemnation of your beloved embargo saying:

"Amnesty International has called for the US embargo against Cuba to
be lifted, as it is highly detrimental to Cubans' enjoyment of a
range of economic, social and cultural rights, such as the right to
food, health and sanitation - particularly affecting the weakest and
most vulnerable members of the population. According to UNICEF, the
availability of medicines and basic medical materials has decreased in
Cuba as a consequence of the US embargo against the island." (AI
website)

Last year, they reported:

"The effects of the US embargo continued to be highly detrimental to
the enjoyment of a range of economic, social and cultural rights --
such as the right to food, health and sanitation -- by Cubans, and
especially by the most vulnerable members of the population." (AI
website)

In March of this year:

"Amnesty International urges the US government to lift the nearly five–
decade long economic and trade embargo against Cuba as it is
detrimental to the fulfillment of the economic and social rights of
the Cuban people. It obstructs and constrains efforts by the Cuban
government to purchase essential medicines, medical equipment and
supplies, food and agricultural products, construction materials and
access to new technologies. The embargo also denies Cuban-Americans
their right to travel freely to their country of origin. The embargo
has been overwhelmingly rejected by the United Nations General
Assembly for the past seventeen years.

"Although the US administration has recently eased remittances and
travel restrictions for Cuban-Americans, and has allowed US companies
more flexibility in selling food and medicine to Cuba, these measures
are limited to the end of the current fiscal year. Nevertheless,
Amnesty International hopes that they herald a comprehensive review of
US foreign policy towards Cuba."

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AMR25/002/2009/en/e7b1efe4-27f4-4b2c-9a39-23c88749e39e/amr250022009en.html

(Clearly,even AI is unimpressed with the USA's recent non-gesture
toward Cuba!)

Our Mr. Lobbyist would actually have you believe that, despite their
obvious condemnation of his beloved embargo here, AI would actually
support these cruel sanctions of his for as long as it takes for
certain of his "preconditions" to be met! Yes, he really is that
desperate, that stupid and that cruel! Whatever it takes, right, Mr.
Lobbyist?

Until you man enough to face up to your dirty deeds and to what you
really are, do not expect a reply from me on these matters, Mr.
Lobbyist.

For more information on PL and how he operates, interested readers
should see these recent threads:

"PL, Club Med and the Belgian Ministers"
"PL's supposed 'local knowledge' a sham"
"PL confirms embargo used to harm Cuban citizens -- whatever it
takes!"
"PL's Final Solution to the CUBAN Problem"
"PL voted SCC Loser of Year for 2008"

As for the rest of PL's pathetic posting, readers may also be
interested in the thread, "Top Official: US Wants Cuba 'Liberation'"
where our Mr. Lobbyist here runs through almost his entire repertoire
of desperate lies, distortions and evasions (including those here),
each debunked by yours truly at:

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.cuba/browse_frm/thread/1ae3dea90e537555/da566b8afe2111a2?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=en#da566b8afe2111a2

Dan
Visit my CUBA: Issues & Answers website at http://www.netcom.ca/~dchris/CubaFAQ.html
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