Re: Under-5 Mortality: Cuba improves 1 ranking, USA drops 5 (UNICEF)

On Jan 24, 4:16 am, PL <P...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

[snip]

Even Raul admitted that reported data was "flawed".

"The Revolution cannot lie," he said in comments published by the
Communist
Party newspaper Granma. "This isn't saying that there have been
comrades who
have lied, but the imprecision, inexact data, consciously or
unconsciously
masked, can no longer continue." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/27657

What Mr. Lobbyist snipped for obvious reasons:


Raul Castro Speaks About Cuba Food Woes
Acting Leader Raul Castro Sees No Excuse for Cuba's Transportation and
Food Problems
By ANITA SNOW
The Associated Press

HAVANA - Acting president Raul Castro complained to lawmakers about
inefficiencies in the island's economy, telling them in comments made
public Saturday that there is no excuse for the transportation and
food
production problems that anger many Cubans.

So, he was talking about financial data, not health stats. Another of
your lies exposed!


confirmed by international experts:
"Economists outside Cuba preface their research papers with warnings
that
the statistics are untrustworthy -- there are no reliable sources." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CubaVerdad/message/27963


This obviuously refers to financial data as well.


So: forget about getting to the complete and accurate truth there. It
is
"cloacked" in the Castro information embargo.
Castro does NOT allow any international inspection or verification.

An example from the health sector:

Michael Thiede is Senior Research Officer in the Health Economics Unit
of
the Department of Public Health and Primary Health Care at the
University of
Cape Town, South Africa. He writes: " Last year I spent three months
in
Cuba. I am still motivated to put together some papers on Cuban health
care.
Unfortunately, however, during my stay I was only able to get hold of
the
official statistical data and find them not especially trustworthy.http://www.stanford.edu/group/wais/cuba_healthcarestatistics62202.html
(link broken)


A glutton for punishment, aren't you, Mr. Lobbyist? Dr. Thiede, as you
know, is an economist. As he confirmed to me in writing, he was
referring to financial data here as well. On health stats (mortality
rates, etc.), he said they are actually "quite rigorous." If you had
the balls to write to yourself (we know you don't), you could confirm
this for yourself.


"WHO and the PanAmerican Health Organization (WHO's Regional Office
for the
Western Hemisphere) cannot report to the world without clearance from
the
Cuban government."
See:www.promedmail.orgArchive Number 19970627.1390


No proof of here that stats are falsified or unreliable. Another lie
exposed!


Sociedad
Un falso primer lugar

Sin la existencia de fuentes independientes, ¿cómo los organismos
internacionales pueden certificar los 'logros' cubanos en salud y
nutrición? http://cubadata.blogspot.com/2006/06/un-falso-primer-lugar.html


As usual, no independent medical experts to support your outrageous
claims.


"Official statistics indicate that by one measure -- life expectancy
-- Cuba
is doing quite well: The average Cuban male lives 75.2 years,
compared with the American male's 74.5.
But Juan A. Asensio, a trauma surgeon at the University of Miami and a
Cuban
American

How about an indedpendent, unbiased source for once? If this this the
best you can do, you might as well concede the point.


who has studied the island's medical system, questions first
whether such figures can be trusted."http://www.mre.gov.br/portugues/noticiario/internacional/selecao_deta...

From Promedmail :
 The global electronic reporting system for outbreaks of emerging
infectious
diseases & toxins,
open to all sources.
ProMED-mail, the Program for Monitoring
Emerging Diseases, is a program of the
International Society for Infectious Diseases.

 " People emigrating from Cuba or visiting Cuba, including
international
health representatives, have reported that it is in line with Cuban
Government
policy to report mild cases of dengue as "influenza".  Cuban
physicians have
confirmed allegations that some disease reporting in Cuba is
politically
influenced "
Seewww.promedmail.org Archive Number 19970627.1390


Why do you keep snipping that next sentence, Mr. Lobbyist??? Only to
deceive readers here, it seems. In the next sentence, the author says
the under reporting of mild cases may be a "staffing issue." Mild
cases of dengue can only be distinguished from ordinary flu with
sophisticated and expensive blood tests. Another of you lies exposed!

Dan
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