Re: China Overtakes U.S. In Number Of Broadband Lines

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:13:15 -0600, bumblebee
<nospambritneyzombie@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:35:05 -0400, none <""bbb\"@(none)"> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:08:41 -0600, bumblebee
<nospambritneyzombie@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:32:24 -0400, none <""bbb\"@(none)"> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 06:05:17 -0700 (PDT), Heywood <HJablow@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sep 27, 4:57 am, skygod <sky...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Lproud...@xxxxxxx ??:

The word "broadband" throughout the article above should have the word
"censored" in front of it whenever it is used in reference to China.
Since that is not what the internet is about for 99% of the world
users...the statistic is meaningless.
As to the US falling behind Europe, etc, if they were to compare urban
centers with urban centers in Europe, I wonder what the statistic
would be. Large chunks of US are not wired because they are rural with
vast distances between small pockets of few users.- Hide quoted text -

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Who has more freedom. A person with no internet or a person with
internet with some censorship ?

just a like person, who knows nothing, have to stand still,
where some one is cheated to walk into the hell.
internet with censorship is leading to the hell.

They don't need to know anything the ruling elite don't want them to
know. Besides, all the knowledge is in chairman mao's red book.

Actually, the Chinese government is doing the western world a big
favor by setting up their firewall. Among the Chinese people, the most
anti-western force are the overseas Chinese and the overseas Chinese
students. If China allows all Chinese citizens to have the same kind
of access to the slanderous western media, all Chinese would turn
against the western world like you never see before. You, as a
westerner, are doped by your corporate media so bad, you don't really
know how ridiculous both you and your lying media look like in the
eyes of Chinese.

Yea, because those overseas Chinese are expecting to go back and be
part of the rulling elite with all the creature comforts in tow. Why
else would these people leave their beloved homeland?

Most of those overseas Chinese are Taiwanese and Hongkongers. They
know your imperialist west too well, you simply can't fool them at
all. As for those Chinese students, they came here to learn advanced
western science and technology, only to be shocked by the ugly face of
the imperialist west.

Why do you try to speak for Tiawanese? Hong Kongers are the
imperialist spokespeople for China. Can't fool them? Hell, they are
fools for not fighting against the China take-over. What wussies. And
the Chinese students must be so happy they have you as a spokesman for
their thoughts...

That only shows how ignorant you are about overseas Chinese community.
Too bad, your ignorance is not my concern. The more your corporate
media attacks China, the more pro Chinese government the overseas
Chinese community will be. I laugh my ass off watching western press
humiliated by the overseas Chinese demonstrations before it can even
make any impact on the Chinese government. Unfortunately, your stupid
westerners are effectively kept in the dark about the whole thing by
your own media.



Corporate media does a fantastic job on 80% of the subjects and
whistleblowers and blogs take it from there.

That is how you are doped. We Chinese never trust any media. When we
read the state media, we know that's what the government wants us to
believe. When we read the corporate media, we also know that's what
the western elites want us to believe. The truth, if there is any,
only lies somewhere in between.

I did say 80% right?

That's a sorry excuse.

I didn't say which 80%.
I think you need to speak for yourself. How arrogant for you to think
you can speak for millions of Chinese,

That's another sorry excuse.

which have 100% exposure to the
government line and the affluent may get some corporate line.
Somewhere in between? I'm sure millions of Chinese are reading
between the line lol.

That only shows your own utter foolishness and shameless arrogance.

I did say 80% right? I didn't say which 80%.

Unfortunately for you idiotic westerners, although you don't believe
one word the state media says, you swallow what your corporate media
spews out like the gospel truth.

Something that would be
squelched in China.

Uh, I did say 80%...
Squelched in China??? lol, something would be squelched but it won't
be a corporate line, unless becomes a hughe deal like the baby milk...

What's up, ***? Debating yourself now?


Same thing happens in the western corporate media. Read Noam Chomsky
to get an education.
I don't need a education on corporate media and thier takeover of the
thought patterns in the US. Some people know where to go to get
alternate opinions and news. Since we have a completely free internet,
we're able to...

What a stupid thing for you to say, using the effectively marginalized
alternative news to excuse the western corporate mainstream media? Do
you have no shame using the little conscience the few westerners still
have to whitewash your lying corporate media?

Noam Chomsky: "Evaluating countries is senseless and I would never put
things in those terms, but that some of America's advances,
particularly in the area of free speech, that have been achieved by
centuries of popular struggle, are to be admired." He has also said
"In many respects, the United States is the freest country in the
world. I don't just mean in terms of limits on state coercion, though
that's true too, but also in terms of individual relations. The United
States comes closer to classlessness in terms of interpersonal
relations than virtually any society."

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with the ethics of the
professional journalism. Freedom of speech does not mean journalists
are free to lie. I'm talking about the truthfulness of the news report
between the Chinese state media and the western corporate media. The
fact shows the western corporate media is nothing but a lying sack of
***.


Lying media?? Ha, lets see all the web pages removed from just the
sports reporting of Chinese media regarding the underage athletes in
the Olympics.

That was nothing but western sour grape sole losers' scandalous
accusation which can never be proven.

It's already been proven. Your denial of this puts all your other
comments into the crapper.

According to the IOC, nothing is proven, it remains sore loser's
stupid accusation.


The same lying media exists in China and in the USA, but
in the USA it's at the behest of the corporate shills and in China
it's at the behest of the government.

That's why you are a fool. Your corporate shills always work with your
government to serve your western elite. That is why your corporate
media is always filled with half-truth and true lies. There is
absolutely no shame for your corporate media to lie with a straight
face about anything.

True enough...

I'm glad you realize the sorry state of your western news. Do you have
no shame for allowing yourself to be lied to by your news media day
after day, after day, after day...?

and those are the same corporations that brought
prosperity to China while shafting Americans. Very true.

They are free to get the *** out of China anytime. It's all business
deal. Nobody owes anybody anything if the US is willing to pay its
national debts.


For the Chinese state media, however, they must report according to
the facts on the ground because the credibility of the government is
at stake. If the fact on the ground is not their liking, they can only
choose not to report, but they will never dare to lie to distort the
truth which happens to be the most popular sport in the western press.

All western reporters are trained professional liars.
I think most are merely stupid...

Again, a sorry excuse.
.