Re: China's non-impreialistic tradition Re: Alliance can't hide its anti-China intent



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On Aug 29, 10:06 am, "ltl...@xxxxxxxxxxx" <ltl...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Aug 29, 12:44 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On a sunny day (Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:24:48 -0700) it happened
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Of course, the above does not mean China did not fight wars. They did
and
they will do that. But they don't go out to fight war for terroritory
or for self-
aggrandizement.

Tibet, threats to Taiwan.
You are dreaming.

Nah. You are seeing things. Both Taiwan and Tibet was recognized as
part of China long times ago.

It's not that simple, and you know it. But you refuse to admit it. You
repeat yourself over and over again, or quote some long article from
the Western press. One thing you don't do, ever, is make a good case
for your assertions.

Most history books have been doctored, so the winner was the good guy.

If you know more about Chinese history and how the bronze incriptions
were doctored, please inform.

More avoidance of the topic. Are you implying that the history books
in China are all on the up and up, no distortion at all? Riiiight.

Once again, you pretend you are advancing discussion but you are not.
End of story.

Alright, Mr. Know-All ! Prove that the history books you read were not
doctored, and that everything you quote is the truth and nothing but
the truth.

Sigh. You are getting defensive. LT Lee challenged the assertion that
Chinese history books are distorted. He is wrong. They are distorted.
I didn't say other history books *weren't* distorted. I hope you are
smart enough to understand the difference.

You should proof read that.

If you want to defend China that is fine. But I caution against
defending LT Lee. His defense of China is often irrational and
deceptive.

I am Chinese. Of course I defend my Motherland. With my life, if
necessary.

If you are in your twenties or younger, you may very well get your
chance to prove your love for the "Motherland". I think now is an
excellent chance to prove your love of your Motherland by returning to
China instead of living in New York or any part of the United States.
I think there is a possibility that there will be war between China
and the U.S. within the next 50 years.

I have to finish my studies first, and of course I will return to
China. The USA and China will never go to war against each other.
Neither side has anything to gain, but has everything to lose. I
believe that both countries are run by people who have the wisdom of
seeing this, and in 50 years' time, both countries will have leaders
that will be able to solve international problems in cooperation with
each other, and by then the Taiwan issue will have been solved by
unification.
Taiwan was, is, and will always be, a part of China.

Talk is cheap. What does that actually mean? What do you think of the
fact that there are 2 governments, both of which have been in power
for > 50 years? They are 2 separate entities. Have you ever been to
Taiwan? I have been there many times. Would you die just so the PRC
could control my friends on Taiwan? If so, why?

And be careful; having a real conversation in English is not so easy.
I can not have a real conversation in Mandarin but can you have one in
English?

Come on, Bill Moore. His English is excellent. Much better than LT
Lee's. I can understand him very well, but I had trouble
understanding LT Lee.-

I can understand him fine. His written English is excellent, I agree.
I am not suggesting a problem with his written English. But I *am*
suggesting that he may not get all the nuance when reading my
responses. I am just trying to be fair.

"I understand him fine" - what sort of English is that? The English
word "fine" is an adjective. Did you use "fine" to describe "him"?
I have a distinct impression that I actually write and speak English
better than either one of you - not that either one of you is anyone
by whom one should measure any proficiency of the English language.

> Similarly, I do not agree with you that LT Lee is hard to
understand> because if his
English. I think it is because of his style of debate. Maybe I am
wrong.

Realizing that one is wrong is the first step to greater wisdom - you
have a long way to go

Dragon, you have gone beyond your limit. Humility is one word you
have not learned. You must learn to control yourself or you will get
nowhere.

.



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