For the man who doesn't know, he's been deceived.
- From: "Sando" <shweminthame@xxxxxxx>
- Date: 31 Mar 2007 07:12:08 -0700
My dearest Independent Individualist,
I am not a Christian, I am not a Muslim either. So I am sorry to say I
neither believe in GOD or Allah. . I have another very good reason not
to believe in Christianity and Islam, because they use force to
dominated the world. And they are killing each other. Just because one
believes the Old Testament and the other believes in the New
Testament. But old and new are in the same book.
If someone tries to call me the infidal, I can call them the same.
I am not the descendent of Adam and Eve. I have my own father and my
own mother. I know them. I don't need to call any other person or
persons father or mother. Nobody can deveive me. Is that simple
enough?
Whatever you believe , I have nothing to say. You have a right to
believe in anything you want to believe. That does not mean what you
believe is right. Some people believe the sun, the moon, the wind, the
mountain, even a cow, the man with the elephant head as their GOD.
What can I say? Because I don't believe in all those, I don't need to
disrespect them either.
Man , women, gays, or lesbian, what is the Truth?
To say a man is a man, a woman is a woman is not enough is it? There
are men who behave like women, there are women, who behave like men.
I remember you said, you don't want to know about the past, and now
you are talking about Adam and Eve. Is that not too far that you are
going back to the past. Even that from a book that you know no author.
If I say you are a blind believer, you wouldn't like it I am sure.
Now, now, you are talking about truth, you want the Truth and again
you refused to accept the Truth. I gave you example about the white
which I said consists of seven colours. You can't even take that Truth
as Truth which is totally accepted by the scientists, academics and
intellectuals as total Truth, and you against them .
To me you seem to be looking and taken every on the face value which
you know nothing about the value. You really do not want to know about
the Truth whenever the Truth comes up. Its nothing to do with me, but
to do with the Truth . When you have no more answer , no more facts to
argue on the Truth , you always close the case. A white is a white,
you said. You don't want to know about how it becomes white. What a
man you are.
I could have closed this case long ago, but I wanted to know more
about you, and I want to know how much more Truth can you accept. You
are a talker, not even a speaker. Do you know that? I am telling you,
believe in that, you are just a talker. I doubt, sometimes you don't
even know what you are talking about. OK let's get on with the issue
of Myanmar.
To draft a constitution can take as long as it is necessary.
Let me explain, you and I, we are talking about the Truth. How long do
you think we will take to finish this talking about the Truth, only
the Truth, nothing else yet? Not to forget other disruptions, your lap
top broke down. Guys like Gala hla maung came in with all the rubbish.
These are the few examples. Can you imagine what a National Convention
be like?
In the case of Myanmar 1945 constitution which took about three years.
In fact it was almost ready made, I called it the make shift one,
influenced and pressured by the British which was designed to break up
Myanmar from a nation into pieces. 1974 which took about 12 years,
approved by the people, in the end it was only to be abolished again.
The wants of the Myanmar people are many, especially the
Myanmars who do not know what they want. From the very beginning in
1948 democracy was imposed on Myanmars against Myanmar tradition.
Throughout 125 years of the British rule there was no democracy in
Myanmar. The people of Myanmar did not know democracy existed. Myanmar
leaders were pressured by the British, threatened by the British,
harassed by the British, and then artificial democracy was imposed on
them.
Myanmars were not familiar with the democracy, they don't know what it
was. For the Myanmars, they were only familiar with the absolute
monarchy, Mon monarch, Yakhine monarch,. Shan monarch not to mentioned
every town and cities had their own monarchs as well. When British
took over in 1885 Myanmar came under the British monarchy, the great
Empress of India called Vicky and white Chief George VI.
If you are talking about deceptions , everyone is deceiving everyone.
That is the reason, why you cannot find the Truth
Forget the justice. Are you telling the Truth? DO you know the Truth,
nothing but the Truth? I ask you this question , because you started
it, it has to come back to you.
That is one of the reasons, you have to go back to the history to see
clearly what deceptions are, who deceived who.
National Convention or drafting of New Constitution. SPDC and all the
political parties after 1990 election sat down together prior to NC
and agreed to convene National Convention, agreed to draft the New
Constitution for Myanmar. They have already started in 1996 only to be
disrupted by Ma Su Kyi, who was never a candidate in the elections,
not even elected by the people. And other NLD members took orders or
instructions from a none elected member( Ma Su Kyi )and they withdrew
themselves from NC and defying SPDC ever since. NLD became thorns on
the side of SPDC but also on the Myanmar people and Myanmar politic.
Don't forget you guys called SPDC, dictators. You don't even know who
is the real dictator in Myanmar and who are the real dictators in the
world. Of course oit's a matter of opinion.
But SPDC let the show (NC) go on. It is a must, it is a priority, it
is the national interest, it is the interest of 54 million people and
the interest of those connected with these 54 million millions, not
the sole interest of the SPDC.
Don't forget NC to draft the new constitution actually could began in
May 17, 2004. It is now just three years in May 2007. When it tried
to start in 1996 , as I said above it was disrupted mainly by NLD. But
according to the official and recent information basic principals for
this constitution is nearly finished. You can calculate yourself how
long is it. Amendments may be necessary from time to time. Every
constitution needs it.
In my view, all constitution cannot be perfect not even to be near
perfect. Perfect is not the word for the constitution, because
constitution has to change / amend from time to time according to
prevailing circumstances, and situation.
Myanmar which had bad experiences through previous two constitutions.
In the case of Myanmar it is proven that Myanmars are confused people,
they don't know what they want, they don't want what they get. Like
Myanmars has too many Pagodas, Myanmars had too many Chiefs in olden
days (History ). Now Myanmar still has too many of them or the
politicians. Whoever they were/are they don't know what to do.
Somebody has to do something. Somebody has to start from somewhere.
Tatmadaw had to assume responsibilities and do something. SPDC wanted
to do it with all the concerned people, like Ko Aung San had done once
before, but NLD wanted to do it on it's own. To hell with others was
the NLD and its leaders' attitude.
Here we have to talk a little bit about democracy. In my view what
SPDC doing is more democracy than what NLD believe in democracy.
Democracy as it is, is nothing to do with right or wrong, it has
something to do with the wants, rather than the need, of the majority.
In the case of the Myanmars, they should know what they don't know
what they want or what they need. Politicians always go for what the
people want, because their own survival depends on the people. As far
as the SPDC is concerned, the want is not important, the need is. SPDC
concentrate on the needs of the people, the need of the nation.
Its like an arranged marriage, the bride and the groom may have not
met each other before, let alone falling in love. But in time after
the marriage they fall in love gradually, have children and lived
happily ever after.
You don't want to know the past and at least you are going back to
1990, elections. So be it, to my liking.
Myanmars were deceived many times before by many people. I don't want
to use the word " ignorant" here, because we all are ignorant in many
ways. Deceptions for them are nothing new. Because they have very
little knowledge about the world. Why? Because Myanmar mind their own
business. Good in one sense bad in another. Yet they are not easy to
be bullied. Some of them ( you guys ) may be easy to be bullied, but
not all the real Myanmars.
If there are Myanmars who have been deceived, they are deceived by
NLD, not by SPDC.
As history has recorded , for centuries Myanmars fought among
themselves or against foreign powers to make Myanmar one independent
sovereign nation, fit for all people in Myanmar.
The world doesn't not tell the Truth. Myanmars were made to believe
their own rulers were no good. inefficient, corrupt, brutal, tyrants,
rapists, robbers and so on. . They belittle the Myanmar leaders, in
the past and at present, while the accusers are doing the same to
other people. Not even Ko Aung San escaped from their smear campaign.
Others trying to tell the Myanmars about their leaders good or bad is
nothing but a kind of brain washing. Myanmar are living in Myanmar ,
close to their leaders, whether their leaders are good or bad, who
could know the best, nobody has to tell them.
In the case of you , you are made to believe the British, the American
and their ways of life are the only way. You have no choice, you are
committed. You have no return. That is your choice, through your
rights. But when you try to use big words, such as TRUTH, JUSTICE,
DEMOCRACY HUMAN RIGHTS. You have to answer a lot of questions to
yourself.
How you came to be in US connections with the US ( according to you )
I don't know. I don't need to know. What is there to know.
Ma Su Kyi was deceived by U Aung Gyi, U Tin Oo, U Kyi Maung and U
Maung Lwin and others. They did not tell her the Truth. They did not
tell her that only thing they wanted was to have their hands on U Ne
Win. They may have had scores to settled with U Ne Win. She did not
know the Truth, she had to say she knows everything. Another thing is
NLD party said nothing about the legal status of Ma Su Kyi. Anyway
there were men , elderly ex military personnel could not even tell the
Truth about Ma Su Kyi to the people.
What was the Truth about 1988 uprising? What started it? Who started
it?
First, the row between RIT students and local peoples, when policed
had to involved, police were made scapegoats. Second U Ne Win proposed
to Pyithu Hluttaw to consider multi-party system. which was supported
by some quarter, BSPP rejected it became victim. Dr Maung Maung ( care
Taker) promised elections. Some people started the killings,
beheadings setting fire, destroying public properties, lootings. It
was chaos, lawlessness.
Some people interpreted that as, " FREEDOM ". When they cannot control
the situation, they call it freedom, the peoples' right, the human
rights. That what's happening in some or many countries. The people
are free to be anything the people are free to do anything as long as
they pay. Especially in the country where you are living.
The people demanded democracy. Myanmar was pressured to introduce
democracy, Myanmar was threatened What was the Truth. SLORC did what
it did to calm down the explosive tense situation. It worked.
Actually Myanmars were expecting changes. U Ne Win tried to introduce
changes in order. Dr Maung Maung tried to introduce changes in order.
No, the aggressors and agitators wanted another way, in their own way.
They went around the blocks and pulled out people from the houses they
don't like and beheaded them, set them on fire in the name of
democracy in the name of human rights.
Oh yes , there were many American and British and African in Myanmar
towards the end of 1945. No offence, to be frank, what I really meant
was there were many various Ka-byars or crossed breed. Most of them
left Myanmar for good, after 1962. I do not expect them to say
anything good about Myanmar government.
My uncle's factory which was first nationalised and given back to him
to run employed about 400 people. It was set on fire by its own
workers in 1988. Do I have to take it as a small sacrifice for
democracy, because some people said Ma Su Kyi has sacrifices her life
for it? The factory which employed 400 people was feeding 400 people,
was an investments in the nation as assess to the nation, it was
nothing against democracy it was nothing against human rights.
The question is , how many more 400 stupid idiots are there in
Myanmar. Who was responsible for them to be so stupid who droved that
idea into that 400 heads. Tell me if you know the Truth. It was
alright under nationalisation. For democracy even the factory that was
feeding 400 people, fell as a victim.
You told me you left Myanmar after 1962. While you were in Myanmar you
may have been attending ST Paul's, ST John's, this Saint and that
Saint, which taught you nothing good about Myanmar and its people and
its rulers. Not even about Buddha, but Jesus.
The fact is, the elections of 1990 were held under SLORC.
Not by SPDC. NLD has to be lucky that SPDC recognised NL:D as a force
to reckoned with. That answer may not be the one you were expecting.
You want to know who are in the National Convention. The answer is all
those who should be there, from all walks of life. Those who have only
one interest in mind, that is the NATIONAL INTEREST, not the party
interest.
Btw, all parties including NLD agreed to convened NC. While is was
gaining speed , Ma Su Kyi ordered / instructed NLD members to withdraw
from it. She denied the right of NLD members who were elected by the
people of their respective constituencies. Which again means the right
of the very own people. Have you thought of that? If you want to blame
don't blame SPDC.
The true colour, the true image of NLD and Ma Su Kyi is
prevailing. People now know, their poverty is connected with NLD and
Ma Su Kyi calls for economic sanctions against Myanmar
To make the story short. If you have to do something important would
you like to do it with the people you can not trust or with the people
you can trust? That is a simple question, there is a simple answer.
You cannot say SLORC did not try, you cannot say SPDC did not try to
build confidence , the trust, national reconciliation. No matter who
tried what, how many times. For the person who doesn't want to
compromised with anybody tried many times.
Let me put it this way. NLD, NCGUB, NUB who and whatever they are can
not deceive the people of Myanmar anymore. This is 2007. 17 years to
be exact, they can do nothing. The people of Myanmar do not know
them. The people Myanmar know Than Shwe, Maung Aye, Thein Sein, or
Shwe Man. They are familiar with them. These people brought the
results to them. It was not the quantity, it is quality.
Myanmar saying is, " never mind if there is a hole in the bucket, the
matter is to get the water." SPDC with the bucket with the hole.
Bringing water to the people. Which means progress, which means
developments.
For Myanmar SPDC ( Generals ) are real heroes. They can make it
happened, in the middle of all pressures, in the middle of all
difficulties, in the middle of all the bashing, all the blames and
they do what need to be done. These are the heroes, they are no water
follow fish follow, or they don't go with the flow, absolutely they
are no odds either.
There is nothing impossible to do, but, there may be something which
has not been done before, that's all.
What about this, lastly not the least, the country where you are
living ( according to you ) the military might is so large., The
citizens have no right to say "no", to compulsory military service and
the servicemen and women have drawing their large salaries for doing
nothing. The politicians (leaders) are afraid these service men and
women will turn on them one day. So they create wars in other
countries given them something as jobs to do and to create more jobs
for their people. In a way the politicians are letting them killed,
away from their country away from their love ones. Don't you think
they are clever. They can not only bully others but also deceive their
own people especially young ones, who dares to do anything, because
they have nothing at home to do sitting idle. They were trained just
to obey orders without any questions ands sent out to have a little
bit of adventure in foreign lands.
How old are these young ones? What are their average age?
What is the Truth? Who is deceiving who?
I know you have been deceived Independent Individualist. By whom I am
not sure. Just because you have been done, you think other Myanmars
are done as well or you want them done.
Btw how independent are you? Have you tested that independency or you
are just the fish which follows the water. But the way you are
describing about yourself I can only call you " Jack".
Sando with the capital (S)
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