Re: A PEST and THE PEST.

On Mar 24, 5:49 pm, "Independent Individualist" <mynm...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Mar 24, 8:55 am, "Sando" <shweminth...@xxxxxxx> wrote:





Dear Independent Individualist

I was talking to you because I thought you wanted to talk to
me . In the past you have observed, the good manners, good attitude,
and good behaviours. Those were the reasons I responded to you. You
are also keen on truth and justice. We had a good debate on those
subjects as well

It is sad to find that you can not take the truth let alone the
justice after all. What a man you are. You show your true colour this
time.

United States of America of any other nation including Myanmar
have to come a long way to be here today. They all have their history
or their past You said you have study about the United States, have
you come across these stories and these characters.

Indians or cowboys, I will mention some of those such as Chief
Crazy Horse, Chief Sitting Bull of Sioux nation. Jesse James brothers,
Kid Carson, Buffalo Bill or even Billy the Kid, Wyatt Earp, Doc
Holiday at OK Carroll, etc. They were not just bed time stories my
man, they were definitely not just cartoon characters you know. They
have their history, they have their profiles.

If you are comparing between USA and UM I think it is irrelevant.
Especially the present. USA is the leader and UM is the follower that
doesn't even have their own high quality health system let alone to
mention the education system. You are always relying on the past. You
are a pessimistic person (gloomy distrustful attitude) with cynical
vision towards America and Americans. Your cynical views of America
and Americans have shown all over many forums and posts. Don't tell me
you love the Americans and America. It had proven in your many posts.
I love America and Americans whole heartedly and that has nothing to
do with birth place for I am an Independent person whose faith into
God and God will always be the center above anything else including
residing country or native/birth nation. My concept is very simple and
straight forward. I am an Independent Individualist back then in Burma
and still is in America. I do not affiliate or belong to any party
here in America. As you and the world knows very well, there are 2
major political party out of some but still I am a non-partisan till
this date. My birth right nature of wanting to be free from all
restrictions still going strong. Although I do not belong to any
particular party that doesn't mean I don't care Republican party's
values or Democratic party's values or any other party's values. I
respect all of the political parties and will vote to any one person
in 2008 that I see fit to handle AND control the situations concerning
with America and Americans regardless of that person's belonging to
any party. Back then in Burma I know in advance that I cannot live
under a dictator that is ruthless, selfish and utterly cruel who wants
to rule the democratic, peaceful and prosperous nation under his thumb
and dictate others to follow his unjust rulings. I can't and if I
continue living in that birth place nation of mine there is 2 things
that's going to happen to me. (I do had the ability to foresee what's
coming/predictions). I know for sure I will not live long in my native
country either by ending up in jail or by catching deadly disease or
being murdered by the militants. Why? Because I REFUSE to obey the
rulings or dictations or repressions or oppressions of Ne Win and his
subordinates thus I will definitely encounter with the ruler and end
my life short.

The truth and justice may be there for your further study. Why
don't you get in touch with Christ Christopherson to find out a thing
or two about them. Depends how you see thoings.

Coincidently or your luck, I don't know . Only a few days ago
( 20/ 03/ 07)to be exact, in one of the states of United States called
Arizona, the Grand Canyon skywalk was opened. It justs out over the
giant valley in the state of Arizona. It also cost a lot of money.
They say it is " one of the tourist attractions.", which means there
are many other attractions.

Apart from Grand Canyon itself or newly built 21m glass and steel
horse shoe. If you don't know I 'll tell you what, they are
endangered human species of indegenous native red Indian tribes. Study
their history, then your study on United States of America will be
completed and then you will fully understand what is happening in
Myanmar and about the truth is and justice.

I had to honest and tell the truth. I admit I do not study at all in
my immense free time that I am enjoying right now. Maybe just maybe in
the future I might study. Why? because I am so lazy to study
geography, or history (history is the most hated subject to me when I
attend Rangoon Arts and Science University) science or politics or any
subject at all. I cannot blame if somebody says to me I am a useless
lazy guy that talks a lot. Speaking about talk, it doesn't really
matter if someone talks to me or not for since I was 9 years I play
bymyself and talk bymyself. There's no difference either to this date.
It is no problem to me since I am so used to talking to my self for so
many decades. Talking to you or talking to him or talking to them or
talking to all doesn't really matter as long as I open my mind.
Closing one's mind and keeping inside one's mind and oppressing/
repressing one's mind is not only unhealthy, it is dangerous for that
person. It is better to let it out that concealed it in one's mind
creating build up/ back up feelings that can burst out with explosive
or radical conduct/action. To give a nasty but blunt example when a
person want to let out "nature's call" is it better to let it out or
control and restrict the human nature's call? If one EVER concealed or
control the nature's call that person's health conditions will be
worsen for back ups/build ups of unwanted waste inside his/her body
that the person can even face death. Same goes with the air. Breathe
in breathe out makes a person alive. Breathing in and never let it
out? You'll be a dead meat.

Since you want to talk about Indians let's go back to that. I am glad
that you at least talk about current event ( I see in your profile you
are interested in current affairs) which a bridge jutting out into the
space of the Grand Canyon was open recently. The vision you see about
American Indians and the reality right now (present) concerning
American Indians are opposite like day and night. Now, all non
American Indians have to pay taxes to the federal Government of US but
the Indians do not. If this is not respect to Indians what is? The
Indians have their own land and have their own culture and have their
own laws. What do say about that? They do not pay federal taxes nor
they adhere to non-Indian laws. When ever other non-Indian people
build something on THEIR land we all had to not only ask permission
but also the income (lion's share or majority share) goes to the
Indians WITHOUT taxes. The reservations that the American Indians owns
are well preserve, protected and respected. Any project that is build
in their territory belongs to them and the income and benefits
(majority) goes to the Indians. Am I explain enough for you to
understand the importance of Native Americans (Indians). By the way
there is only one race that is refer to as NATIVE AMERICANS and that
is the Indians. All others including the whites are refer to as
AMERICANS. Do I make it clear?

Now, this moment, compare to what you are saying about the whites and
the Indians centuries ago and see the "practical reality" of today and
what a contrast it is? Grand Canyon is in Indian reservation so the
newly build project belongs to who and the money will go to whom?. I
am talking about the lion's share. OK? The respect we, non native
Americans have towards Indians are so immense that there are warning
signs when we enter their reservations territories is that we cannot,
mustnot pick any objects no matter how small it is to preserve the
Indians tradition and culture.

Now compare with what spdc troops are doing to the native ethnics and
what we as Americans (not native) are doings towards native ethnics
and come back to me to present your insight Mr Mogyo?

What I want to tell you here is, if there is no milk there is
nothing to spill my man, also remember that.

While your one finger is pointing at other, three of your fingers
are pointing at you at the same time.

Don't listen to me, don't listen to others, listen to yourself and
study more about United States of America or about the real world. Be
a good learner for your own sake. Learn about the truth and justice.
Don't let anybody influence you or be misguided by them.

I thought you are a very educated person, may be more than me. You
are one of the brains that drained out of Myanmar. Come to think of it
I don't get that scent in you. You smell different from what I
thought.

I am sorry to say that I don't think I am going to further my
discussions with you, simply because you have nothing to discuss with
me. Truth and justice or any other subject. I can see that you have
very poor knowledge in every thing. You have not learnt about United
States of America, nor have you about Union of Myanmar.

You came to United States during Gen Ne Win time in Burma and you
think you are an American, allegiance to the United States of America.
It is for your own convenient. I have nothing to say on that.

Myanmar is going through very hard time, the time United States of
America had came through. Almost exactly, especially after the
independence. Which reminds me of United States, kicked the British
and after the declaration of independence, civil war and so on. .

Either you discuss or not discuss its entirely up to you and your
decision. As for me I will keep on pursuing for TRUTH and JUSTICE at
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My dear Independent Individualist,

As I said, you are surrounded by and living with theories, not with
realities. That is where you and I are different.. You have your
version of truth and Justice, I have my version of truth and Justice.
George W Bush and Tony Blair have it as well. Especially you are and I
am outside Myanmar, we hardly see what 's happening in Myanmar. Never
mind you or me. We are nothing . The world leaders who are trying to
shape the world They too have the problem of identifying what is the
truth. Even they know the truth ,they may have to come to an agreement
not to reveille the truth . To put it in the confidential files and
keep it secret for 50, 75, or 100 years. That much of the truth my
dear Independent Individualist, according to official secret act in
every country. Do you want to know the truth , for justice? There you
are.

You are a confused man the world is too complicated for you. The world
is too big, even United States of America is too big.No ,matter how
bog United States of America. it won't make you a bog man.

Admit you don't want to know the truth. You are looking for something
else. Because you are in the US you cannot say what you want to say
about U.S.A. You had your oath, didn't you. That much of the freedom
my man. So you are frustrated.
You make everyone your enemy who doesn't agree with you.

If you want to know the truth and justice, you must first free
yourself from all the bondages, biasness, nregatives or positives
views. You must empty your mind, it is not enough to open your mind or
broaden it, still with all the dirts already inside you.

While you and I talk, the only benefactors will be those bystanders,
who are seeing two versions of the truth and Justice and they can make
up their minds. Good , eh?

Here I am not saying what is the truth or Justice. What I am saying is
about the Truth and about the Justice.

You guys can call me anything you like, you can name me anything you
like. That's the only best thing you can do. I am immune to it.

We are engage in political, economical and social matters . The truth
and justice you are talking about relate to these matters. That is
what I mean by real world. When I told you about the past history of
the United States of America you didn't like it, instead you even
called me a pest. Because you cannot take the truth. That's for sure
in my view.

The truth was Buddha left his wife and his child. While trying to
escape from the real world. Moment after he was born , his mother died
at the place his birth took place. At first his own relatives did not
want to know him pay him no respects. Later he was understood,
pardoned or excused for leaving his wife and his child, for he went
into the jungle to obtain the truth . When he was enlightened, he
stayed on his own without sharing his knowledge of the noble truths or
the truth. Only when he was reminded that his purpose should be to
free the beings out of the bondage of this circle of birth ,
suffering, decay and death. He told us that there is a place called
Nirvana where that circle is no longer repeated. Not him alone,
Jesus, Mohammed and even Confucius, they all have their version of
truth and justice. Depends whether we accept them as truth.

We don't know where that Nirvana is , do we? We don't know where the
Kingdom of Heaven is, do we? We know only about this " Dunnia " where
the truth and justice are absent.

The dreamer Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated in United States
of America. There were many, including Presidents and individuals
alike who wants peace were killed by the assassins because there was
no truth, there was no justice in that country. Still there is no
truth nor justice in that country. So it is not surprising that you
think there is no truth and justice in Myanmar. It is fair to say that
I sensed that you have a personnel grudge against Union of Myanmar or
against Gen Ne Win or against the military Government of Myanrmar. I
don't think you had ever tried to find out the truth about Union of
Myanmar. I don't think you had ever tried to see things from the
positive side of SPDC.
Whatever SPDC say you are already prepared to reject them,. Before
they open their mouth. How can you say, you are for truth and
justice?

After the so called Americans who slaughtered the indigenous native
Indians, after they kicked the British out from the land, after they
declared independence, there was civil war, KKK and cults, what more
do you want in the land of the free. Were they not the truths?

The realities I am talking about is during the process of making
United States into one country worth living for all those who are
living there as one people. As you rightly mentioned so many mistakes
have been made , costing so many causalities in perfecting the nation
as well as the people. amendments, corrections. I think it is not
finished yet, it is still going on. When will it be finished , no
never, it depends on prevailing situations and circumstances. What
will they be? God alone knows.

When I told you to study the history of U.S.A., I wanted you to see
how the nations were build. Not to mentioned that nations were build
by the might of the military power. Starting from George Washington,
without the military he could not have done anything let alone to
declare the U.S.A. as an independent nation.

I honestly believe that Myanmar is your country no matter where you
are living now or what citizen you may be at the moment. To borrow
the words the oppositions , such as ethnic cleansing, religious
cleansing, no human rights, no democracy. the guns are ruling. They
are all there in the United States of America.

Even today US and its cronies are making some people think that it is
a crime to be a Muslim or Islamic. They are even passing the laws and
rules to deny the rights of Muslim people, how to dress, how to eat,
how to live , how to ***, in other word, how to live their life. In a
way they are forcing the Muslims to abandon their traditions, their
customs, their culture., if not their religion.

Is it or was it a crime to be a communist, or is it a crime to be a
Muslim. Are these against human rights of the human species?

How much truth was there when US and its cronies invaded Vietnam,
Laos, Cambodia or
Iraq and Afghanistan? How much truth is there when US accuses Myanmar
of this and that? How much justice was there, in all these cases, may
I ask?

The dreamer like the late Rev. Martin Luther King Jr, what was he
doing for those unfortunates in those parts of the world. Was he
approved of what US was doing as justice and for the truth?

My man, if you are talking about that kind of truth for the justice,
I could have understood you. But you are not talking about that. You
think whatever US does is for rights truth and justice, that is what
you seemed to accept as truth and justice which I am not prepared to
accept..

In the case of Union of Myanmar you talk about the truth and justice,
which you don't even know what is what accept the theories. If there
is some truth and justice, Myanmar needs it. Not from the Myanmar
leaders, it's from the world community.

Unfortunately for Myanmar, the so called the world community is found
to be a group of
former colonialists.

Regarding the " thinking ", Buddha said we have to have the " right
thinking/thought".
In my view again, thinking is not the one which makes human species
better than the rest. What makes human species better than the rest or
superior than all other species is their wits, the slyness and their
wickedness and so on. These you may call parts of thinking That is
how human species not only conquer over other species, but they also
even conquer over their own fellow human species. That is why Buddha
said, to be a human beings ( Manuthatta Ba Wa Donlaba ) in this world
( Budda Gabar ) is a very rare opportunity, use it wisely.

Including this right thinking, Buddha prescribed us eight fold path.
You know what they are. That is the essence of it. How much we follow
those eight fold path. We, means everybody, you , me and others. I
don't w ant to preach anything what I don't follow. Because we are in
the 21st century. Buddha was over 2500 years ago and Christ was over
2000 years ago. They may not be up to date, if somebody wants to
argue. The realities of over two thousand years and the realities of
today

Whatever the truth and the justice was, if they had respected
Palestinian and Jews will stop killing each other. By the way do you
think shooting down un armed Palestinians children with modern
sophisticated weapons including , tanks and aircrafts by the Israel is
for the truth and justice?

Let us concentrate on Myanmar. Everybody knows what is happening in
Myanmar. But they have their views, their perspectives, they have
their truth and they have their justice. Already. The question is ,
who are making these things happened. In Myanmar Myanmars have been
fighting each other since Myanmar history was recorded, on their own
or with the help of outsiders. Myanmar lost their freedom and Kingdom
between two colonialist nations, namely French and British.. Who wants
to know the truth, who wants to know the justice. Is it a spilt milk
when somebody talks about the truth and justice on these matters?
Truth for whom, justice for whom? Myanmars have to blame themselves
for being, " Amay Kyaw Dway Daw Nan ". Still Ma Su Kyi and NLD is all
for it they love their step mother than their own mother.

That was the lesson, that was the truth, one Myanmar leaned towards
France, another Myanmar towards the British's. In the end the fox took
the best part of the fish. That was the truth and I don't know where
the justice was. Do you? Who were the exploiters, who were exploiting
who, may I ask?

You are talking about Than Shwe or Kyaing Kyaing or Myaing Myaing or
whoever came in your mind. You have to have the truth to have justice.
If you haven't got the truth you cannot have justice. How much do you
know about them?

There are so many people who do not tell the truth, not even your own
parents will tell you the truth, all the truth nothing but the
truth. In politic " truth ", is a very rare commodity, I am telling
you, The justice cannot follow where there is no truth.

You should worry about the United States of America where you live and
the people you are living with, Myanmars will worry about Union of
Myanmar and its people.

Tell the leaders of US to tell the truth and do the justice for all ,
not to hide anything, and the leaders of Myanmar might do the same.
Tell people what they like to hear doing things what they like to see
is very easy . Not to forget to do the very opposite next.

Did you hear US congress voted in favour of withdrawing the US troops
from Iraq, George W Bush vetoed it. Is that the truth and justice you
are talking about? George W Bush or Tony Blair are both goners.
Those who are left behind will have to deal with it.

In the eyes of the world US and Britain has waged illegal war against
Iraq. Even UN former Sec Gen Koffe Annan said so. What can they do,
what done is done? There will never be truth. There will never be
justice. As long as the might is right. If you are the mighty one, you
don't care any justice, who wants to know the truth. That was what
happened to Hitler, what happened to Slovodan Milocevic,

If the truth is the case, George W Bush and Tony Blair should be
sitting in the docks, against international war crimes tribunal, crime
against humanity and have justice. Don't you think?

My dear Independent Individualist, you may say that I have so many
negative views on US. That I don't want to argue. Yet I will say " yes
" I do have so many negative views on US and Britain Because US
government and some of those US poodles have too many negative views
on Union of Myanmar.

US never try to find out the truth about Myanmar. About who is
helping, funding the rebels insurgents in Union of Myanmar, US never
find out whose been supplying them with funds and weapons, whose been
selling them weapons.

You know why? Because US cannot afford the truth to come out to the
open. It is not only the US my man, it is British as well, they are
not in any position to tell the world the truth. They will avoid the
questions by saying there is no human rights, there is no democracy in
Union of Myanmar. Don't forget when Myanmar was a democratic country
US and Britain were helping the insurgents . It was not the
democracy those what they are after are something else. A permanent
military base inside Myanmar in case they had to go to war against
China or Russia..

I told you that I am a Buddhist, but I am not going to preach you
about Tripitaka, because I don't know them, though I am a Buddhist.

Buddha couldn't do it, Jesus could not do it, Mohammed could not do it
Confucius could not do it. Before them GOD the creator could not do
it. HE killed most of them and yet? Please go to Holy Bible , the old
testaments.What makes you think you can do it?

You still don't get it , do you? What is the resal meaning of "Indian
reservations". Is this another kind of detention centres? Have you
ever been to that place and many other Indian reservations and ask the
Indian their history? What happened to all other native Indians? Were
they eaten up by the cannabals or Cayotes?

Best wishes to you in your searching for truth and justice.


Sando with the capital (S)


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