Re: Army officer prohibits traditional funeral in temple

From: Ba Ma Thi - view profile
Date: Wed, Sep 6 2006 6:06 pm
Email: "Ba Ma Thi" <yotyo...@xxxxxxxxx>
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dear friends and comrades,

your word is standing behind your ass regarding ethnic Mon released
IMNA News. I am a Burmese like you. But you should not use arrogence
words with ethnic nationalities whatever you are SPDC' man, spy or a
supporter of democracy group. The word that make our nationalities in
Burma get hatred each other, should not write or speak out. I have
lived with multi nationalities armed groups in the jungle for 5 years
as a soldier. I never had problem with them. I acknowledge that they
have to fight for their people to survive.


Everybody know that SPDC is a big robber, a big theft and a big liar.
If SPDC confiscated your mother's home or land or farmland or business
in Burma, what u think about SPDC's action. If a Negroen *** your ass
without your permission, what u think about that.


Please kiss your ass first before u say other people's ass smell. U can

stand on the side of SPDC. But don't make bull*** among ethnic people.



I don't want to hear the *** word among us.


Regards,


Ye Baw Shwe Ba


chanlawn@xxxxxxx wrote:
First I thank Independent Mon News Agency (IMNA) for covering Burmese
military regime (spdc) abuses in Monland and thank for MRC-USA for
posting Mon related news here.

Sando wrote:
But only stupids and ignorants will believe that. I don't believe that
MRC- USA is a stupid person.>

Yes, SPDC's act is so bizarre. So it is hard for you to understand
such act. For us it is not nothing new. This is one of abuses or
bizarre acts committed by SPDC regularly happening in Monland.

The only thing is he doesn't know what he
is talking about. May be he was in a rush.>

What I understand is that MRC-USA does not write this news. It is
written by IMNA. Since you see such bizarre act committed by your
Generals, you are so emotion. You cannot think logically, and you
cannot differentiate between who wrote the news or where it originally
comes from and who post the news. For example, if Mr. ABC post a Burma
related news (from the Nation, Bangkok Post) here, it does not mean
that he wrote all these news.


According to the law, all land and sea, things above and under the
ground belong to the state.

Permission or licence should be seeked or with reasons if one intends
to do something.on it or under it.

In this case it is clear that the land belongs to the army, because it
said,

There is no legal government in Monland and no rules of laws. Monland
are under occupation.

' According to villagers, the battalion had confiscated the land in the
area a long time ago and seized almost all the temple land in the
hill.
The temple land was resold for army business, claimed the villager.'

Beside the Army is the Government in Burma at the moment, like it or
not.
SPDC Army is not the government. They are rapists and occupiers. They
raped Mon women. They destroyed Mon culture and way of life. They are
imperialists. Confiscation land is part of their imperialist mission to
confiscate Mon people's wealth for their own good. This imperialist
is worse than British imperialist during their rules in Burma.

When it said Temple it has to be assumed that that is a Hindu Temple.
Then again the word ' Abbot and the funeral piers ' were mentioned , it
means it must be Buddhist monestry and Buddhiat Abbot who had died.


Which place is more appropiate then the cemetry to burn a dead body.

Did you or the vuillagers want to burn the abbot's body together with
the monestry? That would be in favour of the Army.

Before you criticize this point, you should learn Mon cultures how they
hold Buddhist Monk funerals which have been practicing for over two
thousands years before Burman arrived in Burma. They know what they are
doing. Mon people are not that stupid to burn down the monastery along
with the death body. Banning to hold the funerals are nothing but SPDC
army want to destroy Mon culture and way of life.

The land that has the Temple , the mosque, the monestry, the church or
of any other religious uses or even a cememtry has to be registered at
the land registry as such. No other building temporary or perminantly
should be build on this particular land without prior permission by the
government, local or central.


A plot of land can be temperory own by private citizens on lease, free
hold etc.That citizen must prove that he/she have a RIGHT to develope
that plot of land with deeds and licence.or permission.

Since there are now rules of law in Burma, registering the land does
not prevent from land confiscation by occupiers Army. There more than
ten thousands acres of land have been confiscated in Monland for Army
purposes. Most of these land were registered by so-called recent and
current Burmese government.


If the state wants the land back and ask properly, it must be given
back.

In civilized nations, of course if the state wants land for public
purpose, the owner should give the state but the state has to
compensate the owner with appropriate market price. Land confiscation
in Monland is by gun point. No compensations have been paid to the
owner. Again, SPDC Army is not government of Monland. They are
occupiers and rapists.

As the writer signed as MRC-USA, I have to refer USA as his choice.>

I think USA is not their choice. They have been persecuted by the
rapist army in their homelands. So they have to live temporarily in
the US.

.
In the making of United States of America, the native Indians of United
States of America lost their lands to the Government of the United
States and the new comers Euroopeans, because Indians had no documents
to prove that they are the rightful owners of their land.

In the so called Land Rush in America, white people were allowed to
loot the land they wanted and register with the land registry. It
became their land, owners of the land.

So, you mean Burman Army occupation of Monland similar to white people
occupied Indian land when they first landed in America. This reconfirms
that Monland is under occupation. So you can confiscate all lands from
Mon people because Mon people are hunting and gathering people like
Indian in 16th centuries when white people first occupied their land
because Mon people do not have land registration. That also means that
Mon people are not civilized in 18th centuries when Burman occupied
their last kingdom. Don't forget who civilized you. I personally
sympthasize what happend to Indian. Of course, it is not Mon people
business to tell American how to treat Indian. Mon people job is to
fight SPDC occupation and abuses in Monland. But compared to Mon,
Indian are much better situation.

In the case of Burma. the mentioned Temple may be there, with
understanding. Whether it is registered as a ' place or worship' or not
by the state is another matter. if not, even that temple is nothing
else but an ordinary building and if the government has a right to
demolished it for any reason, and use for the benefit of the people.

If you want to talk legality and rights, these things do matter.

Now adays there are many modern developments are going on in the border
area, the land of that Temple is in the mercy of the state.

In the democratic world or in the democratic countries, the benefit of
the majority is essential, it comes first, not just for a person or
just for a group of people.

In some of the many democratic countries, Churches ( place of worship )
are turned into flats, to solve the problems of shortage of
residenctial flats or homes for the majority.

Owned by majority is better than own by one person. That is democracy
isn't?.

Military seized the land and sell it to the people . that is not bad.

What will the new owners say? There are more land owners then before
now. They can call it their own now.

There is always a price to pay for a change, nothing is free..

What is it that you want? Is it because you did not get a plot?

Nevertheless, in my view, this is a made up story , a tale by the
teller.

Sando.

Most of land confiscation in Monland are for military purposes (such
building military and expansion military occupation in southern Ye) to
oppress Mon people in Monland as well as to destroy Mon people
well-being. If Monland is not under occupation, this region become
developed region like other Asian countries such Singapore and Malaysia
due to hard working of Mon people. Under occupation, the more they
work, the more are taken by their occupiers, SPDC. Thus, Monland now
become one of the poorest regions in the world.

.