Re: Belarus to import oil from Venezuela via Lithuania
- From: vello <vellokala@xxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:54:24 -0700 (PDT)
On Aug 20, 8:16 pm, daniloff <mdanil...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
20.08.2010 20:51, vello пишет:
But in bigger plan food, shelter and health ARE results of democracy.
It is easy to see if to compare living standards in democratic
countries with totalitarian ones. Germans living in East part of
country don't become less effective workers then in rest of Germany in
1945 - they just fall under regime who shuts down independent
thinking, making this way finding of new, more effective solutions
impossible. So for me that list of priorities sounds like: "for me
kitchen and sleeping rooms are essential, so no hurry with digging a
hole and building a basement!"
You're putting the cart before the horse.
Everywhere where democracy grew naturally food, shelter and health was
first, democracy after.
West German democracy was not natural. It has been grown artificially in
the American occupation
Well, there were no big differences in living standards before
industrial revolution - what comes with democratization of society. In
europe, democracy starts from grass root level - no matter kings still
keeping top power, officials on village, parish and city level become
elective. Even in Estonia, in Russian Empire, full spectre political
life was present with "miniparliaments" for any city. I use the moment
to say thank you to russians - in 1904 Estonian speaking parties first
time in history take over over german speakers in Tallinn City
Council ...thanks to coalition with Russian Party. There were not too
much russians in Tallinn in 1904 but with estonians and germans
standing fifty-fifty, russian voice was decicive one :-)
As Estonia and Latvia had "Baltic Special Law System" based on German
law back then, you see democracy was no way a new thing for germans -
they just were a bit late introducing it on national level.
.
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