Re: Baltic States vs. the Holocaust Center

On Nov 17, 11:54 am, Dmitry <dmitrijsfedot...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Not comparable. Different targets. Jews are humans, religions are
beliefs. Ironically enough you also managed to draw parallels between
Atheists, who rely their views on science and Nazis, who's ideology,
just like religion(!) is based mostly on beliefs.

Atheism is a belief that what one doesn't see and can't touch -
doesn't exist.  In a way, it is a religion.  It was institutionalised
in Soviet Union in order to replace Christianity and other religions
on Soviet territory.

Much like suggesting that vegetarians are Nazis based on the fact that
Hitler was a vegetarian.

I always wondered, what was his motif to cut meat from his diet?


He felt that it was cruel to animals. He was not a great humanitarian
but a great "animalitarian". In fact, people, who mistreated aniumals,
were sent to concentration camps:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany

Animal welfare in Nazi Germany

There was widespread support for animal welfare in Nazi Germany[1] and
the Nazis took several measures to ensure protection of animals.[2]
Many Nazi leaders, including Adolf Hitler and Hermann Göring, were
supporters of animal protection. Several Nazis were environmentalists,
and species protection and animal welfare were significant issues in
the Nazi regime.[3] Heinrich Himmler made efforts to ban the hunting
of animals.[4] Göring was an animal lover and conservationist.[5] The
current animal welfare laws in Germany are more or less modification
of the laws introduced by the Nazis.[6]

In 1932, the Nazi party proposed a ban on vivisection. In the early
1933, representatives of the Nazi party to the Prussian parliament
held a meeting to enact this ban. On April 21, 1933, almost
immediately after the Nazis came to power, the parliament started to
pass laws for the regulation of animal slaughter.[7] On April 21, a
law was passed on the slaughter of animals. On April 24, Order of the
Prussian Ministry of the Interior was enacted regarding the slaughter
of poikilotherms.[9] Nazi Germany was the first nation to ban
vivisection.[10] A law imposing total ban on vivisection was enacted
in August 16, 1933, by Hermann Göring as the prime minister of Prussia.
[11] He announced to end the "unbearable torture and suffering in
animal experiments" and told that those who "still think they can
continue to treat animals as inanimate property" will be sent to
concentration camps.[7] On August 28, 1933, Göring announced in a
radio broadcast:[12]

An absolute and permanent ban on vivisection is not only a necessary
law to protect animals and to show sympathy with their pain, but it is
also a law for humanity itself.... I have therefore announced the
immediate prohibition of vivisection and have made the practice a
punishable offense in Prussia. Until such time as punishment is
pronounced the culprit shall be lodged in a concentration camp.[12]

Goering also banned commercial animal trapping, imposed severe
restrictions on hunting, and regulated the shoeing of horses. He
imposed regulations even on the boiling of lobsters and crabs. In one
incident, he sent a fisherman to concentration camp[12] for cutting up
a bait frog.

The laws and accusation of vivisection were often used as a pretext to
prosecute Jewish scientists.[10] In 1940, a discussion was started
within the administration about prohibiting pets, in order to conserve
foodstuffs for human consumption. But personal interference by Hitler
stopped this proposal. Ultimately a decree was published by the
administration against pets, but it referred only to the pets in the
possession of non-Aryan citizens.[23] On February 15, 1942, a decree
was published prohibiting Jews from keeping pets[20]
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[Too bad that the Nazis didn't treat humans the way they treated
animals]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_vegetarianism
See also
Reductio ad Hitlerum

Reductio ad Hitlerum, also argumentum ad Hitlerum, (dog Latin for
"reduction to Hitler" or "argument to Hitler," respectively) is an ad
hominem or ad misericordiam argument, and is an informal fallacy. It
is a fallacy of irrelevance where a conclusion is suggested based
solely on something or someone's origin rather than its current
meaning or context. This overlooks any difference to be found in the
present situation, typically transferring the positive or negative
esteem from the earlier context. Hence this fallacy fails to examine
the claim on its merit.

Its name is a pun on reductio ad absurdum, and was coined by an
academic ethicist, Leo Strauss, in 1953. Engaging in this fallacy is
sometimes known as playing the Nazi card,[1] by analogy to playing the
race card.

The fallacy claims that a policy leads to—or is the same as—one
advocated or implemented by Hitler or the Third Reich, and so "proves"
that the original policy is undesirable. For example: "Hitler was a
vegetarian, so vegetarianism is wrong." The tactic is often used to
derail arguments, because such comparisons tend to distract and anger.
[1]
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Sounds like BM, doesn't it?

Actually, BM is even worse. Just because atheists are against
religion, he likens them to the Nazis who were against Jews. Why not
instead liken Atheists to Resistance fighters who were against the
Nazis?
.

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