Re: the difference between Latvia and Lithuania



vello wrote:
On Jul 30, 2:30 am, Vladimir Makarenko <vmak...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
vello wrote:
On Jul 29, 7:32 pm, Vladimir Makarenko <vmak...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Anton wrote:
Vladimir Makarenko kirjoitti:
Peteris Cedrins wrote:
As to lawsuits, we're considerably more advanced in Europe
Oh, sure. I just do not when the official EU's name change is scheduled
to happen? To EK - European Khalifat?
and are all subject to the same court in Strasbourg.
Is it already Sharia or still runs on Roman system?
You are mocking European legal systems and actually think the American
is better? Or were you being sarcastic?
I do think despite all the sarcasm and many many "but" and "however"
that American system is better, it has a nerve to enter legally
uncharted territories. Euros usually shy away.
Hilarious and very clever illustration - the "Boston Legal" show.
Sue my arse off,
please. You would lose, and badly.
Why would I sue you? - you are not filthy rich.
Ok, you managed to put the finger of the rotten tissue of the US legal
system yourself - I don't know if it was your intention or not. The US
system is as much an instrument of legalized theft as much as it is an
institution to hand out justice to citizens who need it.
It is not "theft" it's an extension of economic liberties into the
sphere of social relations. The US has no cap on how much money one can
make running even very unholy business, but to level the field there is
no cap how much one would pay if caught cheating or hurting.
An example in hand which says it all - tobacco companies - in Europe
they got away with a slap on the wrist, in the States they were
bulldozed with punishment payments of hundreds of billions.
How it is possible? By me there is just two options: a) tobacco
business is banned, jail for anyone truing to sell tobacco. And b)
that business is allowed and no one can make dirty money on tobacco
companies. If they fulfill state regulations, how one can go to court
against them?
They made research yet in sixties - "classified" and they found out that
it is addictive and cancer causing and - and hid the information from
customers.
Guilty as charged.







Also the harshness of the sentences in criminal justice are rather in
the club of the 3rd world, not the club of established 1st world
democracies. In some regards the system is even more cruel than Russia's
(the US still murders prisoners, while Russia does not).
The US is much more multidimensional than EU, there are states which
exercise death penalty, there are also which don't.
You may find that Vermont prisons top the Euro hospitals, and some
places in Mississippi are worse than hell itself. Every community -
state lives up to its average "quality".
Same for Europe, I think. Hardly laws and state regulations in, say,
Portugal and Estonia are closer then those of Vermont and Missisipi.
You drive all on the same side of the road and have universal for all
US electricity standards and sockets-jacks. In Europe you had to carry
adapters from country to country.
No Vello it is very, critically different - in the States the "spine" of
the legal system is Constitution, in Europe it is the local culture. In
the States the laws wrapped up Constitution,

As a lot of yanks,

First let's start with basics - I am not a "yankee" because a simple fact that I am a Russkie. Besides call somebody in NYC a "Yankee" and they decide that either you from Boston - a sworn baseball enemy of NYC, or from South which still cannot get over of losing the war.

you make one common mistake - you compare a country
with a continent. US is a country - like Germany or Italy.

Not really - the US is a bigger entity than just "a country". There are only few such self generating entities on this planet and the US today is the only one self sufficient.

In all of
them constitution is the core thing - and that "core thing" IS based
of cultural background of particular nation - in our case US, Germany
or Italy.

This is what I am talking about - that the US Constitution is "estranged" from "culture". Remember - it was written with explicit ban on mixing religion and state with no reference to any ethnic group - in XVIII cent.!
Euro Constitutions are rather legalizing particular basic cultural treats which were in place for centuries. In the US case it was created from a scratch, a product of a pure intellectual effort.

Culturally there may be varieties inside a nation -
lifestyle in Alaska and Missisipi may differ, South- and North Italy
are completely different and there are different cultures in any end
of Germany. But by other hand there is in most cases some clear things
what differ US, German and Italian cultures. If you want to compare
something with Europe, take America as whole.


I do take it as a whole when it makes sense.
VM.
ps - I've seen another amusing documentary on Soviet space program, - about "Almaz" station, which was a super duper manned spy station armed with a real gun to destroy a "kamikaze" satellite if being approached.


in Europe the local culture.
The Constitution is a set of principles how the system work, any local
culture is a Talmud how every single move is to be regulated. How to
unzip your fly.
Hence the generation difference between the US and Euro legal systems.
One day we will sue you. Are you ready? I can recommend a couple of
local legal firms to represent you. Your lawyers are not really good
according to "Fish called Wanda".

VM.




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