Re: More on Ilves in Russia
- From: holman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Eugene Holman)
- Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:35:59 +0300
In article <b90bk.26556$_03.15307@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "J.
Anderson" <andersons6@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Kazys Almenas" <almenas@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:d39d0d4f-6d37-4669-8c87-0ad0fd15cc69@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
How do the English words then penetrate so widely and readily?
Sometimes they even penetrate from English into another language via a third
language. I was looking from my hotel balcony in Baku at a building with a
sign saying "Deniz vagzali". Knowing that "deniz" is Turkish for sea, I
suddenly realized that the sign said Sea Terminal, "vagzali" being an Azeri
loan from Russian -- vokzal -- which in turn comes from the English word (or
rather place name) Vauxhall.
Even stranger is the history of the Finnish word *kiva* 'nice'. It
originated as a Russian mispronunciation of *hyvä* 'good', and was then
borrowed back as a mispronunciation from Russian: hyvä > giva > kiva.
Regards,
Eugene Holman
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