Re: A letter that I lifted from.....

On Jun 25, 4:37 pm, "Henry Alminas" <halmi...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Jun 24, 10:43 am, Vladimir Makarenko <vmak...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

martin wrote:
On Jun 24, 4:50 am, Vladimir Makarenko <vmak...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Henry Alminas wrote:
..... the La Russophope Blog
and which appeared in the
Wall Street Journal originally.
States matters quite well.
Best - - Henry
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A letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal:
I write to express my deep concern about Sen. Chuck
Schumer's op-ed "Russia Can Be Part of the Answer
on Iran" (June 3). As a supporter of democracy for the
nations of Central and Eastern Europe, which suffered
greatly under "Russian hegemony over Eastern Europe,"
his suggestion that these nations be used as bargaining
chips in order to appease Russia is troubling, inexplicable
and unacceptable.
For decades Central and East Europeans had been oppressed
by Russia, whose "greatness" he suggests Vladimir Putin
should restore. The 1932-1933 genocide in Ukraine, the
incorporation of the Baltic countries into the Soviet Union,
the brutal crushing of the Hungarian Revolution of
1956, the suppression of the Prague Spring in 1968, the
imposition of martial law in Poland in 1981, the blatant and
continuing denials of fundamental freedoms in Belarus are all
examples of the tragedies that ruined millions of lives in the
countries of a region that had been ill-advisedly
relegated to the Russian sphere of influence in the 20th century.
After untold suffering, these nations have regained their
freedom and sovereignty. And now the senator suggests
that Russia once again be allowed to dominate the countries
of Central and East Europe in order to pursue policies whose
effectiveness is a matter of conjecture at best. These
recommendations are especially distressing, considering the
disturbing trends in Russia, including the intimidation used to
silence the press and critics of the government, rising anti-
Semitism and intolerance toward minorities and attempts to
use energy as a means to divide Europe and unduly influence
Central and East European governments. The senator's
proposal in effect would validate these disturbing trends in the
eyes of Moscow and pander to Russian nostalgia for
imperialism. Clearly these trends are contrary to U.S. geostrategic
interests in the region. We want no more Yaltas
Bella Litak
Stamford, Conn.
The letter and Henry are full of crap. Wow, what a surprise!
Chuck Schumer is a cold blooded realist besides he doesn't suggest in
any way "to sell" anybody's interests or security.
Of course he is a Dem and one of those Dems who makes Reptilians feel
cold.
Here the true content of his article in WSJ - just to rebute the pile
of
crap from Henry and his Bella:

No, Chuck Schumer is clearly proposing to sell eastern Europe's
security. I wonder how much Chuck was paid.

None of your business - and get a job, stop suck welfare and maybe then
you stop dreaming counting money in other people pockets.

Russia Can Be Part of the Answer on Iran
By CHARLES SCHUMER
June 3, 2008; Page A19

<snip>

Third, we should tell Mr. Putin we will cease building
the ineffective antinuclear missile defense sites in Eastern Europe
in
return for him joining the boycott.

Two years ago, under NATO auspices, Poland, the Czech Republic and
Romania agreed to build an antimissile defense site to thwart the
threat
of a nuclear missile attack by Iran. The threat is hypothetical and
remote, and the Bush administration's emphasis on pursuing the
antimissile system, without Russia's cooperation, still baffles many
national security experts.

It also drives Mr. Putin to apoplexy. The antimissile system
strengthens
the relationship between Eastern Europe and NATO, with real troops
and
equipment on the ground. It mocks Mr. Putin's dream of eventually
restoring Russian hegemony over Eastern Europe.

So in other words, Chuck wants to weaken the relationship between
Eastern Europe and NATO because he is a supporter of Russian hegemony
over Eastern Europe.

For you he is "Senator Schumer". Otherwise address him just "Sir".
You are not in your waterhole among buddies in crocodile hide pants.

I hope the Baltic lobby in the US actively works to get this clown
removed from office.

Politely ask Cedrins or Henry to explain you who is sen. Schumer and
what would happen to the Baltic interests if the Baltic lobby (does such
really exist?) just dared to look at Schumer without proper friendliness
and admiration.

Given that Chuck Schumer comments have upset most Americans of East
European origin,

Really? How do you know that?

I think Chuck will go down in history has the man who
single handedly sunk Obama's presidential

campaign:http://www.nysun.com/editorials/obamas-schumer-problem/79289/-

How on earth can you hope to be taken seriously if you cite the New
York Sun?

Dr. Barry Worthington
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Hello - Dr. Choochoo.

I must confess that I generally don't bother following
up on all the responses to my post.  In this particular
case the russkie contributions are certainly easy enough
to identify - do you agree?

Anyway - about senator Schumer.  In the current
*national* election he is but a "bit player* - if that.

He is considered scum by a far larger constituency
than just the E.E. bunch - trust me.

Must I?

 >He, however, will
have essentially no effect on the final national election
results.

That, we can probably agree upon....


As a result he is of no interest to me - except insofar
as he shoots his mouth of about matters that I care
about.  This he did - in his WSJ article.

I am interested in your stance, however, in that you
post here frequently - and all that.

Well, not as frequently as some people....


Do you personally believe that the Yalta agreement
was a good thing and would you like to see a repeat
performance?

I will understand if you don't care to answer.

The Yalta agreement is past history. I don't see how it has any
bearing on what is happening today.

If you really want my opinion on the current scene, here it is, for
what it's worth.

The future of the Baltic States, indeed, the whole of Central and
Eastern Europe, lies within the context of a united, free, democratic,
and prosperous Europe, a powerful European Union with an integrated
European economy and its own means of defence.

(somehow, I don't think that you will like that answer.)

Russia does not have a hope in hell of re-establishing a political or
economic hegemony over the area in question, and that, indeed, is a
good thing.

Having said that, I do agree with some of the Senator's points. It is
folly to antagonise Putin unnecessarily, and that he has just as much
to fear from islamic extremism as we do.....

Dr. Barry Worthington

P.S. Dependence upon Russian oil and gas is a two-edged
sword....certainly as far as the current Russian economy is
concerned.....

Best - - Henry

PS - to the kindly russkie contributors.
       Schumer is about as safe in his seat as Byrd
       has been for the last 40 years or so.- Hide quoted text -

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