Re: Estonia's Russians turned back on Great Motherland

vello wrote:
On Nov 21, 9:38 pm, Vladimir Makarenko <makar...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

vello wrote:


On Nov 21, 5:28 am, Dmitry <dmitrijsfedot...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

What is there to elaborate - YOU LIED. You need more elaborations? OK,
how about - You are cheap dumb liar?

(would you care to send the details where and when
that "Estonian humour book for children" was published).

Looking for humor of your IQ level?, here it is:

http://www.beriki.ru/2007/10/22/nerusskii-yumor-estonii
http://podrobnosti.ua/society/2007/10/18/465845.html

Singing Vkarlamov's song? It is amazing what "pishet ETV24 so ssylkoi
na MK-Estinia". The articles are loaded.

Well I can only repeat - you are cheap dumb liar.

You seem to believe that repeating your slogan could add some weight
to your rambling.

Did you really hope
that I miss the reference to Postimees?

Not really.

As to your whitewashing of Nazi brainwhashing of children - well I am
not surprised. That's why you don't like some references, - not as
reliable as Voelkischer Beobachter.

That particular source doesn't inspire my trust to its integrity. You
haven't provided any evidence that this book was translated to
Estonian (so that Estonian children can read it) yet.

Did ever a thought visit you to learn facts before "expressing thoughts"?

I do read ingredients before buying the product. The facts can be as
questionable as the myths sometimes, and often are very open to
interpretation.

That philosophical statement is almost as deep as Occam's razor. You are
an educated consumer Dima, how many of you boys died eating something
before reading ingredients and warnings. Probably the fact that you are
still alive is due to the warning on bottle of toilet cleaning solution
- "Do not drink it ever!"

Probably the fact that your "prophecies" are so bizarre is due to lack
of the above mentioned warning on vodka bottles.

What is the purpose of Putin agitating Russian diaspora from poor ex-
Soviet SSRs to move to Russia?

Because, if you missed it, during 90-ties, Russia lost due to
emigration, inadequate education and social mutations a truck loads of
professionals.

Lost to the West as it did during the establishment of Russian
revolution in 1917+. It seems like Russians prefer to leave Russia,
whenever there is a chance, for the better life or to escape
prosecution.

And now when Russian economy growing way too fast there
is critical shortage of skilled labor and professionals.

May be professionals from Ukraine and Kazakhstan will substitute for
those who has left in the 90's?

No, you're alright; your bucket of answers doesn't impress me very
much.

I didn't get that your part "I am not impressed very much" - you do not
accidentally looking around for a date? If you do - you have totally
mistaken.

Your "answers" are very much in line with Soviet agitprop, this is why
they are not impressive to me.

I know what it's like to be a political target in real terms.

Oh, please, Mr. "Litvinenko", sell this shit to your British hosts, I
know better than to buy it.
If you knew anything for real you would never walk around pounding your
chest, besides most of those who knew are dead.

You know very little, Makarenko. Not your fault.

- to be used, you
know, - when needed - ever heard about bitter life of Alan Colmes?:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/fairness-alan-colmes-is-_b...

and this is probably how he will end up:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50022

Think about Alan Colmes, Dima.

I've got much better things to think about, Volodya. Sorry.

You should have written truth, you were so close:
"I've got much better things than to think, Volodya. Sorry.

I'll spell it out for you - I'm not interested in thinking about Alan
Colmes.

I take a look at "source" given by Vladimir and discover that I missed
best part when looking first time: by source this material is proposed
by Department of Education for schools.
Vladimir, take your choice - are you totally dumb or just liar? sorry
for being harsh, but how much I know you, you for sure belive in such
thing himself. It's a piece for Karla and Medved, they belive what
they want to belive no matter about real life.

OK, Vello which particular info in the

http://podrobnosti.ua/society/2007/10/18/465845.html

is a lie?

VM.


It's a miracle day for Russia: first, Russia made it into soccer
European Ehampionship,

That's rather mean on your part to glee that Russian soccer team again is heading to expose itself to the civilized soccer world as a fabulous loser. Bunch of geniuses who are, when put together, is a team of idiots. Well, even gas/oil money cannot buy everything. Still there are hopes that in XXII century...


second - even more unbelievable - I hereby
declare vladimir was right and I was wrong - such book really exists!
Roots of case go back into 1992 when Estonian folclore Institute
collects jokes of kids in medium school age (about 10-12 years). It
was time freedom seems to be a thing without borders in Estonia and in
1995 those jokes were published. Publisher Astrid Tuisk writes in
preface of that book: "One criteria for free and healthy society is
lack of "forbidden" jokes. Collections of jokes published all over
world show that jokes of our kids are not different then in other
places on Earth"

Well, in 2007 our 1996 optimism about freedom seems funny for me -
back then we had no idea that "political correctness" may act as
effective as real "cenzura".

My data is from column in Postimees. folks knowing estonian may read
it on address below. As from Postimees book was popular amoung kids
and as such appears in list of recommended reading for that age
completed by Department of Education. And sits there for more then 10
years till was discovered now when Estonia is by me too "politically
correct" place.

http://www.postimees.ee/051107/esileht/arvamus/293490.php



We all have been kids one day and told jokes e.g. I personally exchanged some with my friends were way filthier than of that book. It is different - the adults are there to tell children what is wrong, not to give them a free ride in filth. Children just do not understand or see many sides of Evil. They do not have an experience.

VM.
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