Re: Condi in Moscow

On May 16, 10:02 pm, Vladimir Makarenko <makar...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
vello wrote:

On May 16, 5:10 am, vkarla...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On May 15, 2:14 pm, Vladimir Makarenko <makar...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

vello wrote:

On May 15, 10:35 pm, Vladimir Makarenko <makar...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
What I gathered from the article that Rice assured Russians that Cheney
will keep his mouth shut from here through eternity of 2008:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/05/15/russia.rice.ap/index.html

Did you read the piece?

I got two clear statements. First:
"Rice said flatly that no country, including Russia, would have a
"veto" on issues the United States decides in its own national
security interests."

I probably missed it in the news - when Russia get a right to veto the
US actions?

So why would Condi suddenly started to talk silly?

Second:
"Asked whether she thought her message was received by the Russians,
Rice replied: "I sure hope so, because I don't think you ever hear
President Bush use certain kinds of rhetoric about Russia because he
respects the partnership.""

I don't find a single word about tongue of US politicians, nor Cheney,
nor anyone else.
Weird, but from that news it is not clear was Putin in position to say
something or was it just lady's talk - at least not a single comment
about Putin's words.

Come on, read between lines. I am pretty sure it'll be commented this
week in the US news. I 'll try to find and post.

World is changing - years ago such matters were dealed on summits vith
both heads of states on place. For now US is represented with nice
chocolate lady...

We don't really know what they really talked about, do we? Condi
wouldn't come to Moscow just to stop mutual verbal abuse, there is an
ambassador for that, nor she came to discuss the damn anti-missiles.
What is going to happen to them is already well known - the system will
get frozen from 2009 and maybe even earlier. Nothing will be built.
They discussed something else and big, but they don't want to tell
public what is it.

Iran.-

You may well be right. "Don't want our "anti-Iran missiles on your
border? Then lets work together to find some another solution for Iran
problem".

"Solution" is on the surface, but there are no troops to spare. Besides
Iran's bomb is seen as inevitable. Just different estimations of time
when. It can be stopped only by total occupation of the country, and
there is no chance for that. It is however possible that in a sick mind
of Cheney to cut Iran's Southern desert regions neigboring Gulf and home
to oil fields is a solution. God help us then.

VM.>

Idea about cutting Iran in pieces seems absurd to me. What would be
explanation to the World? No nation or national group to save from
slavery there and hardly US voters will support idea "just to go and
take coz I want it". - US voters are brainwashed with some idea about
justice, so chechen way is out of question. Even total occupation
seems more possible - then it would br "liberation" if Iran people
from undemocratic govt".
But much cheaper possibility is bombing nuclear devices with message
that we don't occupy you but we will never allow to build nuclear
industry there.
There is probably even cheaper way: I don't know how far are Iranians
with their program, are they able to go forward witout Russian help.
In case they are not able, Russia's clear message about Russia don't
needs an unpredictable nuclear state on his southern border may do it.


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