Re: Economic comparison Estonia<->Finland -- some 80 years ago?


"Eugene Holman" <holman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> In article <1137335616.780671.293170@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "santaka13@xxxxxxxxx" <santaka13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> <deletions>
>> Labai gerai para=9Ayta, Kazy.
>>
>> In my view, Russians who use their language to show their dominance and
>> to denigrate other nationalities - and same goes for some other
>> nationalities who are in a position of subjugating other nations and
>> imposing their langaue on them - are primarily following their
>> primitive animal instincts of, well, to be polite, we'll call it
>> "economy of effort".
>
> So, you've read André Martinet, too.
>
>> (We could also call it laziness and
>> self-centredness, but those would be value judgements and far be it
>> from the present writer to make value judgements! :-) Their attitude
>> is why learn another language when you can get away with using only one
>> - your native language. Then the arrogance sets in as an excuse to
>> cover up their laziness and stupidity, er, oops, I mean, their
>> dedication to the "economy of effort" principle.
>>
>> > The list of these experiences (for some reason I remember them in
>> > detail)=
>> would fill several pages.
>>
>> Indeed, why wouldn't you remember it? And it has already filled
>> hundreds of pages. I have been translating material (LT > EN) about
>> Lithuanians deported to SIberia, and the dumber and more primitive the
>> Russian, the more brutal his/her attitude was. Looks like the more
>> worthless a person is, the more he/she clings to the only thing they
>> have: a misguided sense of superiority over the less fortunate. (You
>> see this in some people's attitude to the poor and homeless: the
>> trashier a person is, generally the less compassionate they are to
>> those yet another rung below them on the social ladder. Same goes for
>> prison wardes, and the attitude of white trash toward black slaves)
>>
>> > That there are many who hate Russian is to me completely
>> > understa=
>> ndable.
>>
>> Yes. Holman says the German Nazi attack on Jews was racist and
>> genmocidal, but the Russian Bolshevik attck on Lithuanians (and others)
>> was not. Utter crap! He clings to flimsy apologies like the fact that
>> the Russians targeted more than one nationality. Big deal! The
>> Germans also targetted Gypsies, homosexuals and the disabled, and they
>> also invaded more than one country. Holman claims the Russians were
>> motivated by ideology. Big deal! So were the Nazis.
>
> The ideologies were different.
>
> Nazi ideology criminalized being born a member of a specific race or
> ethnicity, and taught that the only way to deal with such criminals was to
> kill them, perhaps after first extracting some honest work out of people
> who were, according to Nazi doctrines, born work-shirkers and parasites.
>
> Communist ideology criminalized being a member of a specific social class,
> something that could be "cured" by re-education.

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The fact that the Soviet
> Union targeted specific ethnicities for deportation had nothing to do with
> Marxist ideology, it was a consequence of Stalinist paranoia.

Har, har, har - Holman at his best!!

Then I would guess that the killing of Jews by the Nazis had
nothing to do with their ideology - it was *just* a matter
of a peculiar Hitler paranoia.

That should make everyone feel better no?

Best - - Henry


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