Re: EU Lackey Pushes 'United Stares Of Europe'
- From: "vello" <vellokala@xxxxxx>
- Date: 5 Dec 2005 23:12:18 -0800
> Quit clearly things are quite rotten in Brussels.
> Somehow Europe has been led from an economic trading zone between
> soverign nations - to something that resembles a socialist imperium
> dominated by the same bad old imperialists of old.
> Quite clearly... I also told you it would be this way.
> For educational purposes:
> "Belgian leader proposes 'United States of Europe'
> 01.12.2005 | By Mark Beunderman
> EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS - In a bid to go against the eurosceptic tide
> that is dominating EU public opinion, Belgian prime minister Guy
> Verhofstadt has pleaded for the creation of a federal "United States of
> Mr Verhofstadt, a liberal, on Thursday (1 December) presented his new
> book, provocatively entitled "The United States of Europe."
> The work is meant as a "political statement against the current trend",
> the Belgian leader indicated.
> In the book, Mr Verhofstadt proposes to break the deadlock that faces
> the EU after French and Dutch voters voted down the EU constitution, by
> creating a federal Europe.
> In analysing the current mood of EU uneasiness among citizens, Mr
> Verhofstadt primarily points to fears that European citizens have about
> globalisation and international crime, but these fears should not lead
> to calls for "less Europe", Mr Verhofstadt writes.
> Pointing to the European Commission's eurobarometer surveys on public
> opinion "people do not want less Europe, but another Europe", he
> People want the EU to do more in foreign affairs, and do less
> unnecessary regulation that, for example "decides how French cheese
> should be made."
> Federalist architecture
> Mr Verhofstadt believes that citizens' concerns can be best addressed
> by a more deeply integrated Europe, which could make a fist in the
> globalised world, boost the European economy by better economic
> co-ordination and fight organised crime.
> In proposing a concrete architecture for his "United States of Europe",
> the Belgian politician reverts to a range of ideas that have long since
> figured in the debate about the future of Europe, but are more
> federalist than the rejected constitution.
> He pleads for a "European social and economic government", which should
> set minimum and maximum standards for, for example, greater flexibility
> in labour markets, pension age and workers' protection.
> The European Union - a term which the Belgian politician keeps using
> next to "United States of Europe" - should have an autonomous budget
> financed from taxes like VAT, which it should use to boost spending on
> research and development.
> The EU should further have its own president, foreign minister, army
> and prosecutor.
> Two Europes
> Mr Verhofstadt calls a federal EU "the only option."
> "Clearly, it makes no sense to keep each other in a strangle hold and
> keep squabbling over the way we want to go, while other continents
> surpass us at high speed."
> [No.. Clearly if makes no sense to heredital Brusselian lackeys like
> Verhofstadt that people should determine their own fate - but that he
> and his star-chamber buddies would do it for them.]
> Like all federalist thinkers, Mr Verhofstadt finds himself faced with
> the dilemma that not all EU states are that keen to participate in a
> federalist project.
> Again reverting to older ideas, Mr Verhofstadt proposes a two-speed
> Europe as a way out of the dilemma, with a core of integrationist
> states, surrounded by a circle of states that favour a looser Europaen
> The nucleus, with the prestigious "United States of Europe" title,
> could consist of the 12 EU states that have adopted the euro, but
> should be open to further expansion of states comprising the looser,
> outer circle of the "Organisation of European States" - a term that
> appears to have been borrowed from eurosceptic Czech president Vaclac
> Inspiration from US history
> Mr Verhofstadt points to the fact that in the history of the United
> States of America, not all states immediately adopted the federalist
> constitution drafted in 1787, but today, "it is clear...that the choice
> for the federal model was the right one."
> The Belgian premier acknowledges that recent EU history points to a
> development contrary to federalism, writing that "some countries have
> relatively recently detached themselves from the federalist camp."
> But as in the US case, in the longer term "the direction indicated by
> history is nevertheless crystal clear", he writes.
> Concluding the book, Mr Verhofstadt says he is confident Europeans
> would "by an overwhelming majority" approve his federal Europe in a
> Europe-wide referendum.
> © 2005 EUobserver, All rights reserved"
By me EU is good thing - till we can define him as "group of culturally
close nations acting together". For me it is non-imaginable that EU
would develope towards US model: US is result of state-building by
individual colonists with no nation as whole taking part. Mr
Verhofstadt's homeland is clear show of impossibility to turn Europe
into one state: despite conditions in Belgium are much-much-much better
and cultural difference between Wallonic and Flemish people is much
smaller then, say, between England and Greece or finland and Romania,
you need just one beer in a bar in Brussels to understand that there is
little common feelings between flemish and wallonic-french folks - most
ordinary people think that separate Vlaanderen and Wallonie would be
much better solution. And "French case" - France is so pride he for
sure accepts nothing above him - and for sure all others don't want to
be guided by France. So EU will never be a state despite some
politicians sitting in Brussels for sure want that to have more
influence (read= more money to spent). But for me it would be
profitable, if Europe will be act in political world as united force.
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