Re: A drive through western Livonia
- From: lorad474@xxxxxx
- Date: 30 Aug 2005 09:30:43 -0700
Peteris Cedrin? (Peteris Cedrins) wrote a lot of amazingly ignorant
stuff regarding Latvia that simply begs for his rudimentary
understanding of the Latvian language. :
> J. Anderson wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > No wonder the Livs called this
> > region Metsepole (= 'the forest side').
> Thank you for the fine travelogue, John. So long as Hui has favored us
> with new lows in idiocy about the name, some comments/questions about
> the name, turning to Karulis -- what is your source for "Metsepole"?
Given enough time, I attempt to roll back your and your fellow foreign
agents' misinformation regarding the Baltics.
> Vidzeme, the name for the region in Latvian, has several possible
> etymologies -- "vidus" as "inside" or "middle" also relates to woods
> (as "meþs" to "median"), and Karulis points to the toponym Vidriþi in
> the Limbaþi district (relating it to the Old Scandinavian "vidr,"
> "forest, scrub").
Total ignorance and brainless flopping about on your part.
Vidzeme simply and clearly means 'Midland' that's all.
> The Chronicle of Henry of Livonia speaks of "Ydumea" -- whence
> "Vidzeme," according to many -- and a possible etymology for this is
> the Livonian "ida," "northeast"... "*Idumaa" or "*Vidumaa," northeast
> from the perspective of Rîga (but may be older and again refer to
> forest)... others think the "vidus" is Latvian in origin, "middle,"
> meaning between Courland and Estonia -- or between Russia, Poland and
> Prussia.
No, you fricken foreign 'id-iot'. Vidzeme meaning 'midland' between
Kurland and Latgale; look at a Latvian map you clown.
> Then there's "vid-" from "vend-" -- "Wendish land" -- or even
> from the inhabitants -- "vidzemnieks" -- _binlandescher_ -- someone
> arriving in Rîga from the interior, the land.
Enough already you russian imbecile.
> Endzelîns, basing his thinking on Bielenstein, believes that the word
> comes from the coast (inhabited by Livonians) and was used to refer to
> Livonian territories in the interior.
You claim Endzelins believes that 'midland' is based upon Liivish?
That is totally insane you malicious russian liar.
Learn some Latvian from me; free:
"Videjs: middle"
"Vidiene: central region, upcountry; Vidzeme"
"Vidu: 1) in the middle of - in the very middle
2) among; amidst"
"Viducis: middle, midst"
....and all standard Latvian. Nothing Finn-Ugric about this standard and
commonplace Baltic root word. Your lack of Latvian understanding is not
just apalling - but is abysmal. Please go insult others elsewhere with
you ignorance.
> In summary, one can't escape the Livonians even by using the Latvian
> appelation "Vidzeme," no matter how much Hui might like to.
I just detroyed your russian lies with evidence taken from a standard
Latvian dictionary. Squeak on elsewhere, russian .
> (Personally, I prefer "Livs" to "Livonians" because it _does_ get
> geographically and chronically confusing; I use "Southern Livland" to
> translate the historical region. But it's more fun to use "Livonian"
> while Hui's around!)
> /P
Your personal beliefs don't matter. You only prove two things; 1) You
don't even have a rudimentary grasp of Latvian language. 2) You are a
knowing liar who produces anti-Latvian propaganda.
> P.S. Would Hui also suggest that Courland doesn't exist, or is a
> nefarious term employed by his ubiquitous "russkie propagandists"?
You are indeed a russkie propagandist.
And yes, Kurland exists - and was peopled by the Baltic tribe of the
Kurshii. Anything else, shameless liar?
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