Re: A drive through western Livonia
- From: "«Pas de deux»" <kamouraska3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 07:35:54 -0400
"J. Anderson" <fergana@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "«Pas de deux»" <kamouraska3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "Pçteris Cedriòð (Peteris Cedrins)" <cedrins@xxxxxxxxx> asks in
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>> «Would Hui also suggest that Courland doesn't exist, or is a
>> nefarious term employed by his ubiquitous "russkie propagandists"?»
>>
>> Dunno what he thinks, but there are at least two Courish (brothers of
>> Livs) words in Lithuanian: laivas (boat) and bure (sail). Not sure
>> yet, but another may be kadagys (juniper). Quite possibly some names
>> of fish and coastal vegetation may come from Courish too. And there
>> are sure to be some hydronyms. (No, hydronyms are not attractive
>> maidens that haunt the sites of dams generating electricity! :-)
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> Hui will tell you that the Cours were not the brothers of the Livs.
> I've seen both claims: that they were Balts and that they were Finnic.
> It's hard to tell, obviously. Everybody seems to interpret what little
> we know just the way that it supports his or her premeditated
> conclusions.
>
> In any case, the words you mentioned are in modern Finnish: laiva,
> purje and kataja (in Estonian: laev, puri and kadakas). Since the
> Finnics were more 'coastal' than the Balts, perhaps laiva/s and
> bure/bura more naturally would have come from their language/s to
> Lithuanian and Latvian than the other way around. It would be
> interesting to know what words the Old Prussians used for boat and
> sail. If they were totally different, I'd consider the case solved.
>
> Let's see if we can discuss this undoubtedly Balt-related topic
> without insane interference from General Nuisance.
>
> Regards,
> John
No time, gotta go to work, but maybe this will help:
http://poshka.bizland.com/prussian/l.htm
GK
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