Re: What is it like to live in Black Africa?



Goodgoobaloobee!

It's wonderful to see an enlightened voice on this forum for a change.

I know of several countries where black people predominate and the
lifestyle there is wonderful. I certainly am not willing to divulge
those locations on this forum however.

These white supremacist beasts would go there in an instant and begin
spreading their lies and hatred.

When Countries like Amerikkka stop colonizing and raping Africa, and
begin developing it, the conditions of which the white supremacist
spoke will disappear.

As long as we keep electing devilish people like we have in power now,
that more high-minded attitude is not likely to come about.

The people running this country are SAVAGES in the sense that they are
violent, unscrupulous, immoral, and unethical Haines.

There simply is no nice way to portray the chaos they have caused
worldwide in the last four years or so.


Peace
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:47:50 GMT, Haines Brown
<brownh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"James Crow" <dont_let_the_sun_go_down_on_you_r@xxxxxxxx> writes:

I find a number of things in your reflections on Africa to be
unsettling, such as your inferring general truths from a limited set
of specific instances, but I'd like to pick out just one.

After the European colonizers and civilizers were forced to leave
due to internal subversion in the 1950s and 1960s, nearly all of
sub-Sahara Africa has been gradually sinking back to the level of
savagery that preceded the arrival of the Europeans. South Africa
and Rhodesia, were, of course, shining exceptions to this rule.

The term "savagery" is ambivalent. In principle, it refers to the
Enlightenment notion that history progresses through stages: savagery,
barbarism and civilization. We use other terms today for these stages
(palaeolithic, neolithic, ancient, etc.), but still explicitly or
implicitly assume historical progress, even in stages.

Given that history is an emergent process (all historians would
agree), it is very doubtful that one every really goes backwards to,
say, the "stone age" or some earlier state of the system. Especially
in modern times, we are all part of one large interconnected system
(globalization, etc.), and while social, political, or economic
collapse is unfortunately always a possibility, we remain part of the
world at large. However bad conditions might be in some places in
Africa, the people are nevertheless very much a product of modern
conditions.

To put it simply, if you were to travel to Monrovia and chat with
people on the street, you would not be speaking with "savages", but
modern people suffering from difficult circumstances. They feel they
are part of society at large (a fairly modern phenomenon), have needs
and aspirations that are quite modern, are aware of developments
elsewhere the world, etc.

The term "savage" can be used in a looser derogatory sense to suggest
that a person is wild, crude, inhuman, fierce, etc. However, we
wouldn't want to apply such terms to ordinary quite decent people who
happen to suffer grievously from circumstance rather than having a
fatal flaw in their character (and so assume there is a "rule" rather
than an outcome of particular factors). To imply that "Black Africans"
(apparently in contrast to white Africans") have crippled
personalities comes awfully close to racism.

It also marginalizes the actual circumstances that cause or contribute
to the misery, and this is likely to obscure any responsibility for it
other than the people who suffer.

It strikes me as unwise, inhumane, and unscientific to blame all
victims for their own misfortune. While of course we all bear some
some responsibility for our fate, it is always in the context of real
circumstances that cannot be ignored or discounted.


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their friends and families, and they refuse to pay damages to make
amends for the physical and psychological destruction that this home
grown terrorism causes in their restaurants.



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his ability to reason and think clearly about what is right for
America, and what is wrong.

White Supremacy is a Polar Bear from Hell
That eats away at African Americans intestines
Every waking moment of their lives
To remind them that the big lie about their being inferior to "whites"
Is accepted as Gospel truth by MOST of the Hellhound
white society that is destroying them.


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