Re: repeated measure analysis
- From: Richard Ulrich <Rich.Ulrich@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 16:42:29 -0400
On 10 May 2006 09:25:10 -0700, arrayprofile@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
[snip, details of repeated measures ANOVA ]
The problem is that if I do pairwise (among treatments) regular t tests
at each time point (i.e. using only the data in comparison), there are
indeed many significant comparisons; however, If I do pairwise t tests
using MSE from the ANOVA (i.e. 153230) for each time point, there are
no significant comparison at all which I think is inconsistent with the
marginally significant p value for the treatment main effect in the
ANOVA.
why?
Actually, this failure of the separate t's, with the better error
term, is fairly natural and predictable. The main test, with
p= 0.04, is a 1 d.f. test of the total across all 15 periods.
It is, in effect, a test of the composite score. When the
separate scores are measuring the same tendency, this
composite will be a (much?) more powerful test than
any of the separate tests.
Bruce suggested, earlier - when he thought you had an
interaction of Group with time - that the 1 d.f. test on
the linear *slopes* would be the powerful test of the
expected difference between groups. If the groups
*were* expected to diverge gradually from an initial
starting level of equality, then his suggestion *is* what
you ought to be testing.
What you ought to test depends on the hypothesis.
For an overall test of a single hypothesis, you usually
ought to aim at finding a single test with 1 d.f., which matches
the form of the expected differences.
--
Rich Ulrich, wpilib@xxxxxxxx
http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html
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