Re: What would you do?
- From: Bob Casanova <nospam@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 11:56:51 -0700
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 10:31:10 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by ksoileau
<kmsoileau@xxxxxxxxx>:
On Dec 28, 12:17 pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:43:14 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by ksoileau
<kmsoil...@xxxxxxxxx>:
On Dec 27, 1:06 pm, Bob Casanova <nos...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 06:02:28 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by ksoileau
<kmsoil...@xxxxxxxxx>:
On Dec 26, 11:05 pm, Dakota <ma...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sun 12/26/10 22:16, ksoileau wrote:
On Dec 26, 9:30 pm, Dakota<ma...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sun 12/26/10 18:44, ksoileau wrote:
On Dec 26, 6:37 pm, Dakota<ma...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sun 12/26/10 17:17, ksoileau wrote:
On Dec 26, 5:00 pm, Bob Casanova<nos...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 13:40:55 -0800 (PST), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by ksoileau
<kmsoil...@xxxxxxxxx>:
You find yourself in a compound from which there is no escape. You are
given ten silver pieces and one gold piece. The silver and gold can be
spent at any of the compound s stores, which offer food, drink,
shelter and so on. There is also a key market which sells strange-
looking keys. There are hundreds of different ones to choose from.
Each key costs one gold piece. Silver is not accepted. At the end of
thirty days, you have been told, you will be brought to the exit. Once
you pass through, you will be in a sealed chamber with one exit, a
large door. The door may or may not be locked. If it s unlocked, you
may walk out and you will die painlessly and pass into eternal
oblivion. If the door is locked, and you have purchased a key, you
will have one minute to use the key to unlock and open the door. If
the key fits the lock, you can pass through the door and you will be
carried off to eternal bliss. There is no guarantee that any of the
keys sold at the key market will fit the lock. If the key does not fit
the lock, you will be carried off to eternal punishment.
You may choose to spend all of your gold and silver in goods, and not
buy a key. Or you may spend the silver on goods and select a key to
buy in the key store with the gold piece. Which is your best option?
Assume the door isn't locked, unless you have evidence
otherwise.
BTW, you forgot "After you pick a key, ridicule and attempt
to kill those with different keys, and especially those who
decided to not pick a key".
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
Wow, someone is too butt-hurt by Theists to answer to answer a simple
philosophical question...
Eternal bliss or eternal oblivion? It's not a simple philosophical
question. It's just more religious nonsense. You are simply to
brain-hurt by your theist masters to admit it.
LOL It's just a question about human risk management and decision
making. Your atheism has ruined your objectivity.
Of the three possible outcomes, one is favorable, one is neutral, and
one is unfavorable. Purchasing a gold key may or may not very slightly
increase your odds of achieving the favorable outcome but, without a
gold key, the probability of either of the remaining outcomes is 0.5.
Considering the probabilities, the only rational choice would be to
spend all the coins on a means to commit suicide. Suicide would
eliminate the slight chance of the favorable outcome but also eliminate
the unfavorable outcome and result in the neutral outcome.
How's that for objective?
"How's that for objective?" LOL Suicide was not offered as one of your
options.
LOL It's time for you to join the other trolls in my plonk box. Bye now.
You'll be missed. By the way, do you always react this way when
someone poses a difficult problem you can't solve?
What difficult problem?
You certainly come closer to making a virtue of stupidity than anyoneLOL
I've ever encountered. Bravo!
Apparently you find difficult things which are not. My
condolences.
This from a guy who thinks it's smart to wait until there's evidence
that the door is locked before deciding whether he should buy a key.
By then it's too late to buy a key. Nice thinking, Forrest!
And buying a key, chosen at random from a multitude of keys
(assuming your little tale is an allegory about religious
belief the number is actually thousands or tens of
thousands, not hundreds) each of which has the same chance
of being the correct choice, would effect essentially zero
change in the odds regarding the outcome. By all means buy a
key; the result will be unchanged by any measure you care to
make. This would change only if you had some evidence
regarding the value of each key, and only after determining
that *any* key had value. But lacking evidence of any sort
there is no way to determine that any key has value, much
less a specific one.
But feel free to follow your imagination, which after all is
what religious belief is all about.
--
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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