Government. The issue is worth some research.


Homes in calif have been confiscated on this basis, revealingly only
after the state had made numerous attempts to force a sale for
incorporation into park land etc... 'the 'scott case'. Malibu calif
area about 15 years ago is a premier example'.


Phil Scott (no relation)


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From: Lookout <zx034blas...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:55:43 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Jan 26 2008 10:55 am
Subject: Homeowner Shoots Robber, Feds Seize His Life Savings
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The Govt is totally out of control. For all intents and purposes
the state owns you!! Ain't this great - the guy fights off home
invasion robbers that came to steal his money but Uncle
Sammy steals his money anyway.
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Man wants his $400K back from the FBI
Greg Sowinski | gsowin...@xxxxxxxxxxxx - 12.18.2007


Luther Ricks Sr. sits in the living room of his Greenlawn Avenue home
where authorities took more than $400,000 from him earlier this year
following a fatal self-defense shooting in his house. The FBI now has
his money and is refusing to give it back. Two robbers who broke into
Luther Ricks Sr.'s house this summer may have not gotten his life
savings he had in a safe, but after the FBI confiscated it he may not
get it back.


Ricks has tried to get an attorney to fight for the $402,767 but he
has no money. Lima Police Department officers originally took the
money from his house but the FBI stepped in and took it from the
Police Department. Ricks has not been charged with a crime and was
cleared in a fatal shooting of one of the robbers but still the FBI
has refused to return the money, he said.


"They are saying I have to prove I made it," he said.


The 63-year-old Ricks said he and his wife, Meredith, saved the money
during their lifetime in which both worked while living a modest
life.


A representative of the FBI could not be reached for comment.


During the fatal shooting incident inside the house June 30, Ricks
and
his son were being attacked by two men and his son was stabbed. Ricks
broke free, grabbed a gun and shot to death 32-year-old Jyhno Rock
inside his home at 939 Greenlawn Ave.


Police originally took the money after finding marijuana inside
Ricks'
home, which Ricks said he had to help manage pain.


"I smoke marijuana. I have arthritis. I have shingles, a hip
replacement," he said.


Ricks, who is retired from Ohio Steel Foundry, said he always had a
safe at home and never had a bank account.


American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio Legal Director Jeff Gamso said
Ricks has a tough road ahead, not impossible, but tough to get back
his money.


"The law of forfeiture basically says you have to prove you're
innocent. It's terrible, terrible law," he said.


The law is tilted in favor of the FBI in that Ricks need not be
charged with a crime and the FBI stands a good chance at keeping the
money, Gamso said.


"The law will presume it is the result of ill-gotten gains," he said.


Still Ricks can pursue it and possibly convince a judge he had the
money through a lifetime of savings. Asking the FBI usually doesn't
work, he said.


"The FBI, before they would give it up, would want dated receipts,"
he
said.


If the FBI does keep the money, it would be put toward a law
enforcement use, if the city of Lima does not fight for it because
the
city discovered it, Gamso said.
.

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