Re: stockmarket beating of the former employer

On Aug 11, 12:56 pm, Straydog <a...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

These are all interesting ideas. There is often great honor between swords
and dragons.

Some folks have purchased a share of the stock then shown up at
shareholder meetings with a small stack of floppies in the event fraud
was an issue etc...some only let a little of the information leak, as
the management squirms about what else the person might know.

I love it, I love it....

You need to be able to exptrapolate the general nature and other
aspects of mess, be able to cross triangulate various observations to
confirm, then do some research into other triangulation points.
After asking a lot of casual questions of many other sources (who wont
understand) will give you more triangulation points on an otherwise
invisible field.

An understanding of that general situation will prove out by resolving
many other questions one might have had.

then with a little pressure or whatever you might want to call it,
rats begin scrambling..it is this phase that you must be able to
sustain viciously effective personal attacks, some dont. but if you
have covered your bases properly, and have triangulated then cofirmed
the smell at least of the rotting corpses... well you have leverage at
that point.

and of course you never leave the 'dead mail' packages with anyone who
even remotely knows you, thats done via complete strangers on a 6th
sense a person tends to develop in times like that... multiple
packages..only one has to get through is the idea.


the waitress walks over and you can tell she has been around the pole
a few times... you like her a lot and the approach is natural...
'hello sweetheart, look can you do me a favor when you get off? Put
this package the trunk of your car and drop it in the mail if I dont
leave a message for you the restaurant within the next 90 days, its
all about the slime running _______ corp....then leave a 50 dollar
tip. She will understand intuitively if you are on the right path
so to speak, and do it for you.


let em trace a dozen of those.



Sometimes a person will call management before the stock holder
meeting, say part of whats on his mind along with faint mention of
data only a person with the inside dope would have... then see what
the response is, if its heavy criminal activity going on paranoia
would ensue... those generally then make all kinds of other mistakes

This reminds me of two WSJ articles some time ago:

1. The title was "What to do if you are indicted" and went into a good
half dozen strong recommendations and I think they asked a lawyer to help
them.

2. Then there was a lovely story about how the FDA subpoenaed one of the
big pharma companies for lots of file cabinets. And, what happened? Well,
after months, the FDA pieced together a case against the company for
destruction of documents. What they (FDA) found was that what was in the
file cabinets was only a part of the total number of documents. What it
looked like is all the incriminating evidence was NOT handed over to the
FDA and how the FDA found out was by noticing that what they did receive
included memos, etc, that made reference to other memos that were,
interestingly, missing. So, confronted with this information, the
executives all caved-in and confessed. I can imagine how they felt as the
feds placed on the table, all these memos, cross-referenced to each other,
and when the feds said "OK, how about producing those missing documents
that are refered to in these documents, and, while you're at it, explain
to us why all of those documents are missing?"

IIRC, they ended up nolo contendre and paying a fine.

The idea is that if a person has something to loose he has reason to
fear.. same on your end, if you are not willing to die, you compromise
and thats the beginning of the end... a person has to get over that.
but also stage the approach so that killing you or even leaning on you
hard is completely counter productive.



.. in some cases though those doing the leaks should have worn a
bullet proof vest, others have been invited out the door of aircraft
over the ocean etc..with hundreds of millions or billions at stake the
motive is surely there, not to mention other losses that could
occur.

Well, we could talk about some of those famous guys who got into
mysterious airplane crashes....couldn't we?

yes. and some not so famous. its common. You dont get involved
without serious leverage to preclude that. if you do your cross
referencing right you will have all you need. You keep it all
offsite, redundant..and take notes constantly... in the end a pattern
emerges...its only the pattern thats relevant, the defence tactic is
to bogg you down in juicy details...even leaving disinformation to
fatho who will react to or not.

details without a full view of the pattern dont add up to much. most
peoples error. its pervasively common.





Also, they DID get Noriega, didn't they? So, don't cross the USA or you're
in deep doo-doo. And, I actually knew an ex-CIA guy who told me he was on
the death list of the govt of France; don't know if he was pulling my leg
or not. However, we've got some 30,000 more guys in Afghan looking for old
binny laddy, don't we?

Many people have crossed the likes of the CIA and are still kicking...
those know how to stay alive by means Ive mentioned.




To preclude that eventuality Ive read that some would put a package to
together to be released broadly to the press etc in the event they get
a hang nail or whatever, bullet hole problems that sort of thing...
that avoids getting taken out in many cases apparently, allows one to
relax.

"If you don't hear from me tommorrow, mail this stack of envelopes!"
addressed to newspaper editors all over the USA. Of course, in the good
spy movies, the badguys have followed all of your friends and they
confiscate all of the envelopes (cf. that movie with Will Smith and the
NSA is after him, wipe out all his credit cards by hacking into all the
cc companies, bug everything he's wearing, etc. )

The spy movies are good in spots but Ive never seen one that involved
the exploitation of the jerks paranoia... that takes a 6th sense
more or less... you really have to be after the people with full
intent for those skills to emerge if you are the type.. then it will
all come natural and casually. As their hair catches fire so to
speak many more trangulation points will appear... thats also a
becon,hair on fire you know you are leaving faiint traces of hints in
the right subject area.

'dang mon, i was down by the river near that old Pier the other day...
' no much. If others then, not privy to that conversation casually
mention the old pier...now you see, that would be a clue...you are
onto something. etc.




Relaxation is very important at those sorts of stressful times in ones
life... otherwise being upset is a total waste of time, counter
productive...you are best advised to keep up with current advances,
make some of your own and move on, next time with a better contract.

Ever dream about those south sea islands?

I used to, but have notice that old folks go directly south when taken
out of the fray...at this point Im in it to the end, just not on the
front lines all the time like I used to be... in a more relaxed mode.
thats working.


Phil Scott
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