Re: Postdoc jobs from multiple companies can be found on indeed.com

On Jun 8, 2:27 pm, BMJ <squeakwiz...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
phil scott wrote:

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Which begs the question: how do these outfits expect to stay in business
and provide high-quality goods or services when they don't want to hire
people with experience and/or education? I suspect that we are in, to
borrow a phrase that I first heard in the Ken Burns documentary series "The
Civil War", the Age of Shoddy. They simply don't care.

with tens of thousands of prime US companies SOLD to the chinese over
the last decade, I think a large part of why they dont care is that
the principles are selling and leaving with the cash... they have no
interest at all in the companies future.

the chinese buyers dont care because they have purchased the
technology and have a vast surplus of PhD level S and E's to fathom
what we did and how to clone or advance it.

I was thinking in term of domestic employers. If I was running a business,
I'd be looking for the best people available. If there was someone who had
a lot of experience and other qualifications, I'd start negotiating. That
person's salary would likely pay off quite quickly.


I *was refering to domestic employers... those intending to sell down
the road maybe in a year or two... those dont care about the long
term.

You might want me to address those intending to stay in the USA?
and still not willing to hire talent. I would be somewhat at a
loss to answer that, but not totally.... many of course are just
idiots, inherited the business from its founder who had a clue...these
do not..they do not value high end skills. From my experience thats
almost wall to wall comon... very few exceptions.

Of the exceptions, those are hard pressed to compete with the
companies that moved offshore, they are hiring only to bare minimum
levels, trying to hang in until they can retire or sell out.


what of the few that are agressively seeking advance? Like Genentec
(sp)... they hire the best and pay well enough to get it, but with PhD
indians in the mix, and the ability off shore much of the research,
those salaries are still not very high, especially consiering that a
high school grad San Francisco or NYC cop can make 100k or more a year
with just a little overtime....twice what many PhD's earn... in fact a
good lawn care company, the owner working with two helpers can earn
that in a year easily, 6 hours a day,



I think back to when I was a young kid with a brand new engineering B. Sc.
It took me a few years before I felt I had enough experience and
confidence in my abilities to make my own decisions. Until then, I was
asking a lot of questions of my senior colleagues in order to learn how
things were done.

Of course, today's graduates are so much better prepared, aren't they?


about 5 years ago I was asked how in the hell I could ask for $35
dollars an hour when they could get 'a brand new graduate, with all
that stuff fresh in his mind for less than half that'.

idiots always predominate in the end phases of any culture.

It is learning to cope happily with that its possible to find an
answer to it.
as long as one is unhappy with that, the focus is on the
incomprehensibility of it all... solutions remain invisible...
and..because the new solutions are not at all like the old solutions,
a person tends to see only the previous range of solutions, which do
not exist anymore, nor does the context of that culture... it all
goes.

the new solutions will be in context with the new culture... thus you
find yers truly on any given day talking to a lady with a badly
functioning loo...to a man with a high rize construction management
problem..then back to a guy with a houseboat he wants a $50,000 dollar
remodel on because he liked my 3D CAD drawings of it... then back to a
weeks time off, figuring how to cut my fixed costs by another 100
bucks a month... done well, that ads up to a complete sea change in
life style, and working less than 10 hours a week to find freedom in
an unfree world.



that may in fact be the total answer to our questions along these
lines.... why do these companies still respond to our resume's and
call us in for interviews?

You got responses? ;-)

7 recently.. Two world class intelligent interviews, these are still
looking, the others a result of people who dont know how to read a
resume and determine skills required.

Several from people who think I just wanted a job, any job, and went
into shock when i agreed to a live interview but only after we did a
phone call first to see if would be a fit.

with a little lying i could have had one of the jobs probably,
stepping into a nasty meat grinder of a situation for a world class
firm with project manager burning out on one of the job sites, due to
harrassement from the owners rep etc. I passed...been there done
that. they would have wanted to pay me 75k or so, thats for a 7 am
to 6 pm gig.. half paid out in taxes, 20 in extra living expenses,
leaves 15k to save if I lived frugally.


I passed. they will endure limitless pain....the owner with ihs
killer babe wife will retire in 5 years and move to south america.

I will remain living on a houseboat and etc... sipping my starbucks
and beer... catching a fish now and then, chasing a few women, doing a
little engineering work and a mix of trades one day a week on average,
with an occasional project of a few months...then a years
vacation...healthy...unstressed.. *** going to full attention on
demand...waiting for the next medical advance that will insure more of
the same.

an army of others will follow, just as the boat people off of Hong
Kong and other parts of asia have. there are many ways to impliment
the approach. as a person ages with even very modest entitlements it
gets easier.... low overhead is the key.

In some parts of asia they only have one cooking pan, and one
knife...so that moving is easy. these dont have junk...and they dont
worry... these can spear one fish every day or two and live just fine
into very old age, and very little medical care needed, no stress you
see.


Our western standard its high stress and viciousness to the max... big
money..spend to maintain the high stress environment, then pay to
keep all the resulting diseases at bay for our short retired years.
that model sucks you see.





they have to satisfy the HIB visa

requirements and probably for other govt purposes.

I'm sure that most of the interviews I had in the last five years were
bogus and that the favoured candidate had been selected by the time I met
with the employer in question. I would have been brought in either as a
token gesture or to confirm the choice of that person.

I think thats about right...
In the end phases of anything, rot occurs, its not rational since it
is not driven by the life forces that created the thing, the rot is
driven by other forces... you dont fathom those of course.

studying the life cycle formats of any range of living things will
reveal those patterns to you, and what can and cannot be done to
change it or benefit from the cycle.



Phil Scott

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