Re: Postdoc jobs from multiple companies can be found on indeed.com



On Jun 7, 7:37 pm, Straydog <a...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007, phil scott wrote:
On Jun 4, 5:34 am, Straydog <a...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think the really sad thing about the last two decades is that employers
create these "temp" jobs to avoid paying full salary and providing more
secure employment. You no longer have a _career_ but a string of low
quality experiences that actually do nothing but dirty up one's CV. After
half a dozen, prospective employers don't even look at these guys any
more. Then they end up as taxi drivers, bus drivers, etc.

That was very true 5 to 10 years ago... even the idiots bodyshops
hired to man the the agencies would ask sarcastically 'whats with ALL
those jobs'.... stunningly ignorant those folks.

Better to paint your face a darker color, learn a fake Mexican accent (or
Indian accent), find some fake ID, pay a hacker to put INTO the
databases the evidence that you have the credentials you say you
have on your resume...and you'll do OK.



I took many projects deliberatey to gain broad experience and learn
new ranges of technical applications etc. that has been quite
valuable, I can see solutions others cannot in many cases...
however as you folks have been pointing out, none of that is saleable
or valuable in the current 'job' market....

What THEY want is CHEAP and YOUNG and EXPLOITABLE warm bodies. The rest of
us can eat crow.



Fortune mag, May issue has a one page article on america's attitude
toward education..its being trashed, parents are increasingly calling
school administrators to complain about attempts to teach little
johnny algebra 'what does he need *that for'...and of course its that
parent who is old enough to work for a company and drive its hiring
policy.

2 year school programs will be better for most.

the article points out how this will bankrupt the US in dire terms.
If it had gone on to explain how letting 20 million uneducated aliens
will affect the nation, as these are authorized to bring in their
families, for a total of 40 or 50 million, as more than that many
educated american middle class retires...the picture gets dim indeed.

There are studies to show they eat up more services than the money they
save their employers.



thats a net 100 million or more change to the negative in the total US
work force. (168 million).... without the US middle class breeding
even to replacement levels, but with the uneducated folk, who today
statistics show drop out of school at the highest rates, breeding at 2
or 3x replaement rates.

I want to know who is going to pay these ridiculous tuitions when kids
won't be able to get those $100K loans any more, and won't get good jobs
to pay off those loans.



graph that sometime

woiking for oneself however the experience is valuable.... a person
can get into the 50 to $150/hr range... more like 50 or 75/hr though
by those means... of course a self employed car mechanic rate is $85
to $100/hr...+profit on parts.. (lasting until we get 40 million new
folk witih no education in the US, car repairs will go for what it
takes to pay rent and buy food).

I've talked about this from about 2-3 years ago and on back to 5-7 years
ago.

Apparently in the US as its currently set up, education is not
actually valuable (on the short term)... we can live off of
established technology until the chinese/ indians surpass us, then no
problem.... we can simply buy what we need from them.

we are a nation run by idiots.

No kidding!

in the final analysis its better to stay educated,

Preferably, as Mark Twain said, without schooling.

you dont get a

blank look on your face that way, and as you age your brain stays
stable...with no education it turns to mush at warp speed.

Mother nature always has a perfect solution.

Darwinian survival....or not.





Phil Scott

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I might post a separate thread on how my 3D cad lessons are going, 8
total approx..depends on how you look at it, Home study, using a CD
rom, very high quality instruction.

so far it looks like about a month of 6 hour days per lesson (if one
can stand the stress). to get really good even at doing a limited
range of chores it will take 100 hours to make one pass through one
lesson, and 1,000 hours if a person wanted to go onto the market and
advertise those skills... if that person is already a skilled
engineer, then he has something... a kiddie in school, with no such
skills, would not be nearly as valuable.


How a school can teach this sort of thing in 3 hours a week eludes me
entirely... and that would require a lot of homework also... only the
brightest could do well imho. and even so, it would take several years
of courses to gain the skills...and they would still need a good math
science background to produce decent work.


I think in the US there will be a big shortage of that talent....
however not abroad, a half starved chinese PhD in engineering can
spend all the time he needs to come to world class levels on that
software, and the work can be sent back and forth in PDF files etc.


The viable niche for americans will be on smaller projects, retrofits
and product development where the work has to be done more or less on
site in order to accomodate the interfaces required.


that will keep about 5% of us busy.

a mix of that sort of thing and trades skills at least works...but not
well enough to fund govt as I had been doing with 40k a year in
donations to the revenue folk prior to influx of H1B folk.... oh no...
that money has to come from thin air now...as govt continues to grow
by 10% a year in most areas..


I was also spending my money in the US, furthering the broader
economy. much of the HIB and illegals money is going
offshore.....accompanied by a huge sucking sound.


Maybe our glorious govt can fund its civil service retirements ( up to
10x or 15x !!the average in the private economy, police and fire at
10x) by going after the half starved engineers turned handymen, in
competition with illegals with contractors licenses no less.


Its like this..... if you are an 800 lb fat lady, and these folk came
after you, all you'd have to do is sit there sipping yer mint julip.
(dont make any sudden moves though)

The glorious civil servants could talk among themselves to scare you
and say 'OK, call in the crane company'... etc... all a total waste
of time, they cant even fit your ass into their van, much less a jail
cell...and then they have to feed you.


its over.


The last man standing will be a beer drinker, with very low overhead,
and few if any taxable assets. Govt knows this. that is why so
many are encouraged to 'own homes'...even negative interest loans to
the totally uncredit worthy are being funded by Fed Bank loans.... a
person with a family in a house to feed, can be driven to work two
jobs, 20 hours a day if necessary...

Leverage.

without that, one is free you see.



Phil Scott





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