Re: The "Grey Ceiling"



Russell.Martin@xxxxxxx wrote:

<snip>

That wasn't my take on it. What I read was that they had bought into
the old idea that a "good" career meant lots of upward mobility and if you
weren't promoted on a regular basis then you were stagnate. I used to think
that too, or at least wonder about it. But in my career I never saw it
actually implemented. Very few of my coworkers were promoted and none had
regular promotions. Everybody I have ever known moved up the "company ladder"
by changing companies. I've seen a few coworkers actually get screwed by
being handed a pretty title and more responsibility and no salary increase.
I've gained more responsibility and respect over the years, but I'm
still a computer programmer or software engineer. In working closely with
middle management, I've seen the crap they have to deal with and I don't want
any part of it. I am ambitious, but I'm also ethical and I simply don't see
any room for ethical managers in corporate USA. I'm also willing to work hard
when it's really necessary to get a project done, but I'm not willing to work
80-hour weeks just to look busy. So I don't worry about promotions anymore.

- Sharon
"Gravity... is a harsh mistress!"


There is less room at the top of a pyramid than at
the bottom, so most people don't make VP or CEO
independent of generation and/or ethics You may
end up happier than some of your coworkers.

But being an upper-level manager has considerably more social value than being someone from the lower echelon.


Cheers,
Russell

.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Advice...is it worth giving or getting?
    ... Everything in moderation, including moderation. ... was absolutely lost due to the numerous conversations about high school ... > who got the raises or promotions because the boss liked them while I ... I am responsible for advancing my career, ...
    (sci.research.careers)
  • Re: The "Grey Ceiling"
    ... Very few of my coworkers were promoted and none had ... any room for ethical managers in corporate USA. I'm also willing to work hard ... So I don't worry about promotions anymore. ...
    (sci.research.careers)
  • Hotel Offers and Promotions
    ... I have started a new web page that lists current Las ... Vegas hotel offers, promotions and deals. ... It will be updated on a regular basis. ...
    (alt.vacation.las-vegas)
  • Hotel Offers and Promotions
    ... I have started a new web page that lists current Las ... Vegas hotel offers, promotions and deals. ... It will be updated on a regular basis. ...
    (rec.travel.misc)