Re: Anyone want copies of the "fake moonshot" story and pictures?





On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, BroTher zAchary wrote:


Straydog wrote:

Postmodernist thinking? Where I've heard that applied is to plausible
rationalisations that contravene established laws of physics, chemistry,
biology, etc.

Postmodernists _love_ QED. Classical physics meant reality was fixed
(leaving aside the fact that the ""old" physics is still very useful
for decribing a wide variety of phenomenon, not to mention useful----
like for mechanical engineers, say) and explainable. The Postmodernists
say QED is "postmodern" in nature (it is to classical physics what
postmodernism is to modernism) because it shows that at the fundamental
level, nothing is absolute and determined. Similarly, in Postmodernism,
there is no absolute truth, beauty, morality, etc... it is a
relativistic world-view. The concepts which Modernist thinking took to
be absolutes (and could perhaps be "proven") are really illusions of
absolutes and that fundamentally, everything is relative. Personally, I
think this is a form of weak solipsism, and is an extremely arrogant
world-view, and NO I don't have _proof_ of that, it is just my opinion
(and therefore neither correct, nor incorrect :^)>


Well, I have a similar opinion, but I have to find something funny so I can accurately quote it and it is about postmodernism. Maybe another day.

I'm not sure when the term "modernist thinking" came into use, but certainly from my recent readings in Durant regarding the Renaisance, the Reformation, etc., there sure wasn't that much that was "absolute." There was a great deal of diverse thinking. Martin Luther, Spinoza, the whole bunch were full of blasphemy, heresy and got into trouble. There were people who didn't like the new ideas and other people who did. Very divisive, too.

FWIW...

Quite frankly, a lot of--shall I call it New Age? or a branch of New Age thinking--is "off the wall" as far as I'm concerned. Sure, I can "buy into" a certain amount of relativism, but only up to a limit. Beyond that, if some guy comes up to me with a hammer and clonks me on my head for no reason at all, I'm NOT going to dismiss charges based on some rationalization that it was all his parents fault, or he didn't get the right teachers in school, or some other thing is to blame and we should let the guy off with a slap on the wrist.

At some point one needs to take a moral stand on things like murder, war, and fairness in society (and just to be clear, my hobby horse on this is mostly about those guys in cushy chairs that make decisions without any
vote from me that affect my life in a negative way [Bob Kolker just says
if you get laid off, just go find another career and to me that's the
same as saying 'turn the other cheek' and I'll say in response to that
"its going to be ME that decides how I'm going to respond to that clonk
on my head" or at least to the best of my abilities]). At least that's MY theory on the situation; in practice, I might not have any choice but to fine that new career. Buuuuut, I'm not going to just shrug my shoulders and just wince about it. Making noise seems to be the minimum needed response. FWIW
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