Re: Wall Street Journal on IT career craze




Age 40 is a magic boundary under which most people have this smiley, happy, ignorance-is-bliss feeling about life and the world; and, after age 40, then the cold-cruel-world becomes slowly discovered and a whole slew
of "facts of life" are thrown into one's face.

On Fri, 31 Mar 2006, Mike T. wrote:

You're not kidding. I went back to college at the age of 36 after working in
non-technical fields (construction, insurance sales, retail). I graduated
MCL in math/CS three months before my 40th birthday. I found it impossible
to even get so much as an interview.

I also moved to Germany (for family reasons). THAT only made things worse,
since age discrimination is legal and systematic. In the requirements for
one job after another is maximum age. You can bet the ranch that that
maximum age is significantly < 40.

Bitter? Damn straight I am.

Mike

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Claudius Proculus
Date: 1999/02/26
Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal on IT career craze
To:

In article <7auvf5$s5v$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Tuesday WSJ p. B1 has an article about how people are going back to school
to get IT certifications and degrees to increase their incomes.
The prize certification is pass MicroSoft tests on various subjects.
I noticed a fair amount of advertising from extension universities and
trade schools aimed at this. Seemed to be directed at middle age folk too.

Any downside in this craze? Do people really get better jobs when you can
hire an HB1 visa for peanuts?

There is a big downside.

1. A Microsoft certification is virtually worthless. The only people who
need
them are companies that are M$ certified and need a certain number of M$
certified developers to qualify for the program. Other than that, a
certification from M$ is just as likely to harm you as help you. (Who would
be
stupid enough to....)

2. Companies insist on experienced workers. A M$ piece of paper is not worth
1/10,000th of 2 years of experience.

3. Companies do not hire older workers as new programmers. I have
interviewed
enough over 40 job changes to know that most companies are going to find any
excuse not to hire them.

4. An H-1B worker with no experience, can barely speak English. can't
produce
written communication in English, who has 2 years of fraudulent experience
(and no actual experience) and can barely program is more valuable in
today's
job market than a 40 year old career changer.

If

1. You have a college degree (in anything)
2. You can't get a programming job

No training course is going to do it.

John - N8086N
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